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05-20-2006, 09:30 PM
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The elimination of all public schools
Hypothetical time! :-)
Suppose the following were to take place: 1) All funding for education is eliminated; in its place, every child is assigned a voucher, equal to the amount of funding that would normally be spent on that child, which may be used at any school meeting minimal academic standards 2) All school property is sold off, presumably to private and chater schools 3) The government's only role in education becomes setting the voucher amount, setting the standards for schools, and certifying schools as meeting those standards. Two questions: a) What would be the results of such a move? b) Would you support or oppose such a move? c) Should the government continue to require children to attend school through age 16, and if not, how does this affect your answers to a and b? 
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05-20-2006, 10:11 PM
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Re: The elimination of all public schools
a) Filibustering from the Democratic party. (Should it pass, though, I can't see why it would be worse than the current system.)
b) Support, and hope that this leads to eventual complete privatization. c) Absolutely not.
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05-21-2006, 01:47 AM
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Re: The elimination of all public schools
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a) Filibustering from the Democratic party. (Should it pass, though, I can't see why it would be worse than the current system.) b) Support, and hope that this leads to eventual complete privatization. c) Absolutely not. [/ QUOTE ]
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05-21-2006, 08:19 AM
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Re: The elimination of all public schools
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a) What would be the results of such a move? [/ QUOTE ] Totally nothing. http://www.freedomainradio.com/Traff...3_Vouchers.mp3 (and check out: http://www.freedomainradio.com/Traff...ols_part_1.mp3 http://www.freedomainradio.com/Traff...ols_part_2.mp3 )
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#6
05-21-2006, 09:50 AM
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Re: The elimination of all public schools
1. The result would be an even wider economic gap as a group of kids get no educational push either from parernt or the government. Ultimately that will lead to more crime and more welfare that would incur greater social costs than a voluntary voucher system.
2. Oppose 3. Yes (including the current system of home schooling)
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#7
05-21-2006, 10:24 AM
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Re: The elimination of all public schools
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The result would be an even wider economic gap as a group of kids get no educational push either from parernt or the government. Ultimately that will lead to more crime and more welfare that would incur greater social costs than a voluntary voucher system. [/ QUOTE ] Seems to me that the kids that this would happen to are already the ones who would probably turn to crime.
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#8
05-21-2006, 11:24 AM
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Re: The elimination of all public schools
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[ QUOTE ] The result would be an even wider economic gap as a group of kids get no educational push either from parernt or the government. Ultimately that will lead to more crime and more welfare that would incur greater social costs than a voluntary voucher system. [/ QUOTE ] Seems to me that the kids that this would happen to are already the ones who would probably turn to crime. [/ QUOTE ] But there will be more of them. Truancy will increase because there are still some number of parents who respect the law enough to wake the kids up and push them onto the shcool bus. Without that motivation more kids will be left to their own initiative. There will be some compouding effect as well. One or two neighbor kids who decide they "dont need no education" will attract a few others who decide to play hoops or go surfing and so on. Quality of education still comes down to parenting, and unfortunately there are vast numbers of parents who dont want to be or dont have the time to be bothered.
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#9
05-21-2006, 11:57 AM
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Re: The elimination of all public schools
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The result would be an even wider economic gap as a group of kids get no educational push either from parernt or the government. Ultimately that will lead to more crime and more welfare that would incur greater social costs than a voluntary voucher system. [/ QUOTE ] Seems to me that the kids that this would happen to are already the ones who would probably turn to crime. [/ QUOTE ] But there will be more of them. Truancy will increase because there are still some number of parents who respect the law enough to wake the kids up and push them onto the shcool bus. Without that motivation more kids will be left to their own initiative. There will be some compouding effect as well. One or two neighbor kids who decide they "dont need no education" will attract a few others who decide to play hoops or go surfing and so on. Quality of education still comes down to parenting, and unfortunately there are vast numbers of parents who dont want to be or dont have the time to be bothered. [/ QUOTE ] But all the bad parents will probably be killed off by the children of other bad parents, so in the end, it balances itself quite nicely. If we haven't learned that to learn you MUST be self motivated, then the entire education system is a total waste.
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05-21-2006, 12:32 PM
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Re: The elimination of all public schools
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Ultimately that will lead to more crime and more welfare that would incur greater social costs than a voluntary voucher system. [/ QUOTE ] So then the problem, clearly, is the "crime and welfare" (government-caused problems) which naturally leads to greater "social costs" (the costly government solutions to the government-caused-problems). And so then you agree that government itself is a self-perpetuating problem?
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