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Old 08-07-2007, 10:51 AM
speedgun speedgun is offline
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Default Suspicious fold

I have played with this villain many times before this, but haven't had any chat with him or any other history except, of course, I won a few pots against him in this sat and before.

A satellite, 3 go up. Villain is in BB. He played very loose aggresive poker and has been extremely lucky in this sat, pushing with mediocre hands and always outdrawing.

Anyway, long after he got into the comfortable chipstack to sit out and still win, he continued to shove EVERY hand. It was really annoying. Then this hand happened. After this hand he resumed shoving every hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t34820)
Hero (t12230)
BB (t57790)
UTG (t7160)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t7160</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

If there is no evidence of collusion, there is nothing I can do about this? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:12 AM
NHFunkii NHFunkii is offline
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Default Re: Suspicious fold

email stars
there's nothing inherently wrong with the fold, but he's also not allowed to spitefully try and get you to lose if he doesn't like you or something. I doubt stars will do anything but no harm in emailing them
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:48 AM
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It's also pretty likely that he's clueless. I saw a fold like this yesterday where BB was getting like 5-1 to call. I didn't think anything of it since the guy was a big donkey. Lots of people don't understand that it's often correct to call with the worst hand and just say OMG I have 2-7o that's the worst hand in teh pokaz...

Edit: lol, literally 10 seconds ago I saw a guy call a river stud bet with 2 pr and the bettor had trips on board. LOL Donkaments
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Suspicious fold

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It's also pretty likely that he's clueless. I saw a fold like this yesterday where BB was getting like 5-1 to call. I didn't think anything of it since the guy was a big donkey. Lots of people don't understand that it's often correct to call with the worst hand and just say OMG I have 2-7o that's the worst hand in teh pokaz...

Edit: lol, literally 10 seconds ago I saw a guy call a river stud bet with 2 pr and the bettor had trips on board. LOL Donkaments

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Out of context, that might have been the case. However this guy was pushing and reraise shoving every hand before this, and after this hand he shoved every hand again. I would perfectly understand him if he was folding every hand since he already had more than enough chips.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:09 PM
Sciolist Sciolist is offline
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What's the hand number?

We (PokerStars) do do something about this if it's collusion, but sometimes it is just someone being dumb or misclicking or whatever. If he's colluding, action will be taken.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:09 PM
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What's the hand number?

We (PokerStars) do do something about this if it's collusion, but sometimes it is just someone being dumb or misclicking or whatever. If he's colluding, action will be taken.

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Oh: And not by me posting here - please mail support with the hand and all of their play together will be reviewed.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:11 PM
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Thanks. I already e-mailed the support and they told me a 'poker specialist' will take a look at the hand history. It certainly was not a misclick since this guy took time, like he was enjoying the situation.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:38 PM
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It's also pretty likely that he's clueless. I saw a fold like this yesterday where BB was getting like 5-1 to call. I didn't think anything of it since the guy was a big donkey. Lots of people don't understand that it's often correct to call with the worst hand and just say OMG I have 2-7o that's the worst hand in teh pokaz...

Edit: lol, literally 10 seconds ago I saw a guy call a river stud bet with 2 pr and the bettor had trips on board. LOL Donkaments

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Out of context, that might have been the case. However this guy was pushing and reraise shoving every hand before this, and after this hand he shoved every hand again. I would perfectly understand him if he was folding every hand since he already had more than enough chips.

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I realize I only have a small amount of info here, but how often was he calling all ins? The way you wrote this, I get the impression that while he was pushing with air, he was always the one PUSHING... How often did he call with crap?
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:56 PM
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The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that he wanted to exploit the bubble to the max and the only way to do so was to not let it burst.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:01 PM
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The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that he wanted to exploit the bubble to the max and the only way to do so was to not let it burst.

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Its a sat.
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