Two hands of interest

cowpig · #1 10-23-2007, 07:40 PM

I played some 1/2 today and two hands came up that I found sort of interesting:

Hand one

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BB: $206
UTG: $614
CO: $299.85
Hero (BTN): $199
SB: $211.75

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $5, BB folds

Flop: ($14) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, SB raises to $28, Hero calls $19

Turn: ($70) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $52, Hero raises to $165 and is All-In


Now, this hand would be ultra-standard for me in my usual games. However, I believe I misplayed it vs a 19/15/2.5 200nl regular.


Hand 2

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (CO): $196
BTN: $213.15
SB: $211.10
BB: $439.70
UTG: $226
MP: $186.70

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP bets $12, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($39) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero bets $26, MP raises to $70, Hero calls $44

River: ($179) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

In this hand I think villain recognized me from 2+2 and asked me why I called his raise on the turn (instead of shove/folding). I said that I was relatively WA/WB his range, and that his quick check followed by hesitation on the turn made air pretty likely. He felt that he could be semibluffing there a lot of the time.

What do you guys think?

djj6835 · #2 10-23-2007, 07:44 PM

Both hands seems fine. Hand one is definitely standard against a lot or 200 NL regs, you're basically behind one, maybe two hands. I agree with villain that hand two is a semibluff more often than air for a reg at 200 NL.

Nick Royale · #3 10-23-2007, 07:59 PM

First hand is fine.

cowpig · #4 10-23-2007, 08:06 PM

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Do you think a SSNL nit c/r, leads with KQ or KJ there?

Nick Royale · #5 10-23-2007, 08:07 PM

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Do you think a SSNL nit c/r, leads with KQ or KJ there?

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Nah, I think this is 33/QJs sometimes KTs/TT/air.

cowpig · #6 10-23-2007, 08:09 PM

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Do you think a SSNL nit c/r, leads with KQ or KJ there?

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Nah, I think this is 33/QJs sometimes KTs/TT/air.

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How would you play K9 in my spot?

Nick Royale · #7 10-23-2007, 08:16 PM

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How would you play K9 in my spot?

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I would fold. But that's just because I don't realise AK=K9 while playing [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

No but really, AK actually have a few percentage advantage to K9 vs the range I put him on and I'm sure he'll show up with AK/KQ/KJ a few % and having him drawing to 3 outs these times rather than having to draw to 3 outs myself has a decent impact on our equity even though these % are rather small.

And I don't really think felting AK is big +ev.

Nick Royale · #8 10-23-2007, 08:19 PM

Second hand, did you have any reads while playing? I'd probably play it the same way. Villain's line is pretty confusing.

Suwalski · #9 10-23-2007, 08:39 PM

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really? what happened to baluga theorem? the only real draw is QJ, and it would be sort of crazy to lead out with QJ after you called flop raise, he shouldn't expect you to fold AK. why would he c/r KJ on this flop? AF of 2,5 is not THAT high. I'd say that hand one is a clear fold, but you're definitely better than I, so now i dono.

orange · #10 10-23-2007, 08:43 PM

hand 1 good.

hand 2, i think he rarely, if ever, checks a flush on the river. his line is weird. i think there is definitely value on the river, just dunno. i might pussy out and check but i think that shoving can definitely be viable.