"Dropping " chips into the pot

[StepBangin]

I took my trip to Caesars Indiana last week/weekend and I noticed something that seemed to happened a LOT! It never affected me enough to complain though.

Basically instead of setting the chips down, the players would reach across the "bet line" (That apparently isnt really a bet line, thats what one of the dealers told me, but everyone placed their bets across it) and drop the chips one at a time on top of each other. This happend 2 different ways.

Assume both ways the player wants to be $25 on the flop, he does not announce his raise amount before doing so, he just says "raise"

Way #1 - Player grabs 5 red chips and reaches across the line and drops each one seperately

Way #2: Player grabs a stack of red chips and reaches across the line and drops 5 chips, one at a time, then brings his arm back with the rest of the stack in his hand.

They didnt drop the chips really slow, basically they were dropping them and counting them one at a time. This happend so many times it drove me nuts but it never affected the game enough for me to be a nit about it.

Would both of these ways be considered string bets?


Edit: I thought of a 3rd thing. Assume the player wants to bet $50, they sometimes would grab a stack of red, reach across the line and cut out two stacks, $25 each, and pull the rest of the stack back in his hand. Well, sometimes they would make a $25 stack and a $30 stack, but would grab one off of the $30 stack before bring their hand back with the rest of the chips.

Wouldnt this be considered a string bet too??

Side note: When I bet, I clearly announce "Bet" or "Raise" cut out my chips in front of me, announce exactly how much, "fifty more" or "Fifty straight" (Usually the latter, since I like telling them exactly how much I am putting in, not how much more I am raising) and push my chips out. Why is this so difficult for others?

[pfapfap]

Relax. Let people bet how they want.

[psandman]

In my room if you bring your hand out with chips you have not completed any action until you make a verbal declaration or bring your hand back, so neither of these would constitute a string bet.

[terp]

wtf is the point of the bet line if it's meaningless? assemble your bet behind it in whatever retarded showy fashion you want and then neatly move the stack forward.

[RR]

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wtf is the point of the bet line if it's meaningless? assemble your bet behind it in whatever retarded showy fashion you want and then neatly move the stack forward.

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It's an ergonomics line so if thigns the dealer has to reach aren't over it he can say "put those over the line so I can reach them." OHSA requires the line in California. Before the line sometimes in higher limit games a palyer woudl put his cards under the rail if he was upset about something and if the dealer asked him to hand him the cards he ignore the dealer, walk away, say [censored] you, or take the cards and throw them overhand at the dealer. I think have a spot for the player to put the cards is a pretty good solution.

[terp]

we might be thinking of different things. i don't mean the soft rim ringing the table for people to rest their arms on; i am referring to a colored line in the felt that is typically 6-8" inside and is demarcated as being official and irreversible for distinguishing bets placed.

at some casinos where i've played, they don't tolerate the showy, game-slowing behavior of angle-shooting attenion-seekers who like to carry 1/2 their entire stack across the line and slowly assemble their chips while guaging reactions before finally placing a bet. and at others, the line exists and isn't enforced - this is a shame.

[SplawnDarts]

I think the old fashioned rule that a bet is not complete until your hand comes to rest with no chips in your hand and chips in the pot is most sensible. None of the behaviors OP described are problematic, although anyone who can't cut out specific numbers of chips from their stack without counting is a sad excuse for a poker player.

[DeuceKicker]

No, Randy was talking about the same line. In many places it's not the 'official, crossed-the-Rubicon, point of no return' bet line. It's just a line to tell you how far the dealer will reach before you piss them off. Stuck and grumpy old bastards put their cards on this line, and not an angstrom further.

[psandman]

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we might be thinking of different things. i don't mean the soft rim ringing the table for people to rest their arms on; i am referring to a colored line in the felt that is typically 6-8" inside and is demarcated as being official and irreversible for distinguishing bets placed.

at some casinos where i've played, they don't tolerate the showy, game-slowing behavior of angle-shooting attenion-seekers who like to carry 1/2 their entire stack across the line and slowly assemble their chips while guaging reactions before finally placing a bet. and at others, the line exists and isn't enforced - this is a shame.

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So you think that carrying your chips right up to the line and slowly assembling them while gauging reactions before pushing them over the line is somehow better?

[Barry]

What the OP described is fine, if mildly annoying.

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assemble your bet behind it in whatever retarded showy fashion you want and then neatly move the stack forward.


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Now this is really annoying and retarded. I suppose that this takes about 45 sec. as well.

One of these days you'll guys will figure out how to grab chips and bet them in one motion, rather than the mumble, fumble method.