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Old 07-29-2007, 03:26 PM
jessyj07 jessyj07 is offline
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Default NL25: Flop a set deep on scary board, extraction ?

MP2 is a loose calling station donkey (>45vpip and <5pfr). How much to bet on the turn? $33.80 is the effective stack on the turn. I have a feeling my raise on the flop was to small, feel free to tell me how much I should raise there.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($23.80)
MP2 ($68.40)
Hero ($44.80)
CO ($24.40)
Button ($7.50)
SB ($29.25)
BB ($3.80)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($28.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2.8 (All-In)</font>, MP2 calls $2.80, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, MP2 calls $7.20.

Turn: ($25.90) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero bets ??
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Flop a set deep on scary board, extraction ?

Might raise flop to $12 although $10 isn't horrible. On turn I would probably either make it $20 or a push if you have seen opponent chasing draws.
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Flop a set deep on scary board, extraction ?

Since your stack size is so close to the size of the pot, I would shove on the turn. I think you have the best hand, but he may have something like a pair and a straight draw. (5's or 9's) or A9.
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:47 PM
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I'd raise the flop a little more, but not by much. The only reason it is worth mentioning is because a slightly larger raise on the flop makes pushing on the turn a PSB.

With this read I am assuming you are easily ahead enough to be committed on the flop and a not horrible turn, so after raising the flop a little larger I'd pot the turn AI.
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:54 PM
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I agree with everything thats been posted. I feel you're ahead here more often than not.

Given his stats and the size of the pot I would push the turn and if he folds you took down a good pot without a showdown or he may call thinking your trying to oush him off a hand.

If called and beaten I would make a note and stalk him.
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Old 07-29-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Flop a set deep on scary board, extraction ?

I don't consider anything less than 200bb's deep. Easy turn shove.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:10 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
I don't consider anything less than 200bb's deep.

[/ QUOTE ]semantics, get over it. wasn't worth mentioning, nit.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Flop a set deep on scary board, extraction ?

shove seems obvious, but you could try $20 on the turn and shove on the river. Some players don't see such an obv pot-committing bet for what it is.


Please post the level in your subject line in future.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Flop a set deep on scary board, extraction ?

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Please post the level in your subject line in future.

[/ QUOTE ]Will do.

I did shove in this hand since that bet made the most sense. As a previous poster mentioned I should have raised more on the flop to set up a psb shove on the turn instead of an over shove. He folded...shocker.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Flop a set deep on scary board, extraction ?

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[ QUOTE ]
I don't consider anything less than 200bb's deep.

[/ QUOTE ]semantics, get over it. wasn't worth mentioning, nit.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're not deep as your title suggests. Thought I would correct you on what deep means.
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