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Old 09-26-2007, 04:53 PM
hotmark777 hotmark777 is offline
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Default Re: Hand against Fossilman

Bakes maybe this hand was played poorly. I am a relative novice in tournaments esp 6 max. I have played a lot of tournaments online but most of the time just to blow off steam. Now i am trying to improve my game and strategy.

Ok everyone agrees flop check raise was poor. And check call was the best way.

How about preflop is that standard?
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Hand against Fossilman

but dude, its 150+bbs, you are a winner at cash games, you should know quite a bit about ranges in this spot...thought u might know not to c/r in this spot. pf is obv fine, i'd c/c flop, c/c turn, prob c/f river. maybe even c/f turn.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:00 PM
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I think preflop is standard. 4 betting is pretty awful as is folding (though I like folding better than 4 betting).
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:07 PM
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I hesitated before folding. My gut feeling told me he could be pushing a worse hand because i was quite active.

He showed 88

Anyway i ended up busting him a bit later
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:08 PM
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I honestly don't get his play in the least. I can't believe he would expect you to muck tens through QQ (which your hand looks like) since you are an unknown and since you put a bunch in already.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Hand against Fossilman

I dont know why everyone insists i am unkown. I have actually played fossilman in cash games on two or three occasions (high stakes) so it is very possible he took notes on me.

I am also one of the few players who has been consistently playing high stakes online poker for the past three to four years
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Hand against Fossilman

I don't want to sound results oriented, but given this is 6-max and given villain is a world-famous LAG, I am not sure it is so obvious villain has a higher pp. To the poster, saying don't you know how to play poker, isn't that what OP did, rather than play like a nit?
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Hand against Fossilman

What's your history with him? Had he 3-bet anytime before this hand? What's your image in cash games? What's your image in this tournament?
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Hand against Fossilman

stars pros in general don't care much about these but since raymer won one I would expect he cares much more then any other stars pro.

But greg also is a very active guy PF and postflop and I think it's fine going broke here if you c/r though I usually c/r bet/call flop.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:36 PM
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i think raymer likes to shove with any piece of anything early to try to get that big stack right away, but i could be wrong

anyway, i dunno, i think you probably should not c/r/fold the flop, if you c/r it has to be because you expect, say, that he is gonna get out of line with a worse hand
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