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Old 04-02-2007, 08:27 PM
b33nz b33nz is offline
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Default QQ vs LP player.

villain was 21/7 after a good sample. i decided to just call flop since he barely raises. plus its good for meta game reasons and i was hoping MP might decide to shove with whatever and i could get it HU AI PF that way.

i bet the flop cuz the board is already draw heavy. i was again hoping MP would come over the top and if BTN calls/raises i can be almost sure im beat 100% by at least one of them.

standard ace comes on the turn, so i decide, ok ill CC since i could still be ahead much of the time and i dont think this LP player will call my flop bet and fire 2 barrels with something i beat. so river im getting about 3-to-1 and the only "bluffing" hand i can put him on is 66.

who likes my line?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $468.30
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $1012.50</font>
UTG: $400
MP: $146.90
CO: $413.40
BTN: $394.40

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $4, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $18</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $14, MP calls $14

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 8 ($56, 3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $43</font>, MP folds, BTN calls $43

<font color="black">Turn:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($142, 2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $75</font>, Hero calls $75

<font color="black">River:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($292, 2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $145</font>, Hero folds
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:46 PM
uva_ted uva_ted is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs LP player.

I like your line, I don't think you can fold the turn, and ya on the river you aren't beating much.
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:28 PM
Esuom Esuom is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs LP player.

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I like your line, I don't think you can fold the turn, and ya on the river you aren't beating much.

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river changes nothing, if we're ahead on the turn we're ahead on the river
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:49 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs LP player.

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I like your line, I don't think you can fold the turn, and ya on the river you aren't beating much.

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river changes nothing, if we're ahead on the turn we're ahead on the river

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Lol I love playing vs. people who think like this.
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Old 04-02-2007, 11:28 PM
rebuyboy rebuyboy is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs LP player.

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I like your line, I don't think you can fold the turn, and ya on the river you aren't beating much.

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river changes nothing, if we're ahead on the turn we're ahead on the river

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so J9, a double-gutter on the flop, did NOT hit a straight? What?
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Old 04-02-2007, 11:33 PM
dchz dchz is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs LP player.

i like it, except i think you are forgoing a lot of value with the PF line, and i'm not 100% sure what the meta game benefit is... so please explain?
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Old 04-02-2007, 11:58 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs LP player.

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I like your line, I don't think you can fold the turn, and ya on the river you aren't beating much.

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river changes nothing, if we're ahead on the turn we're ahead on the river

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so J9, a double-gutter on the flop, did NOT hit a straight? What?

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You believe a long term 21/7 has J9 here?
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:09 AM
uva_ted uva_ted is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs LP player.

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I like your line, I don't think you can fold the turn, and ya on the river you aren't beating much.

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river changes nothing, if we're ahead on the turn we're ahead on the river

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So a 21/7 is gonna be double barrelling you like this um ever?

I think the river bet narrows his range, he's very very rarely bluffing here. Bluffing the turn is pretty obvious, any idiot can bluff that card, but to 2 ball it, ya a guy like that isn't doing that
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: QQ vs LP player.

bet the turn, and fold to c-r
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:17 AM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs LP player.

hmm, i rr pf.

if im villain im value betting T9 against what looks to me 67 or so. but then again i have alot more then 7 pfr, so this guy prolly has an ace, or more likely, that beaten.

fine fold on the riv, not positive i enjoy how you got there
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