An eye opener for everyone....

[Luzyfer]

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Are you going to post this in every forum?

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Yes, Do you know any other forums where you frequently wonder around posting retarded questions on other people´s posts?

[Luzyfer]

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Cliff Notes For OP

1) OP sets up and operates a series of fake accounts in the names of his family members

2) OP is outraged that Neteller and other payment processors stopped his fake accounts

3) OP somehow concocts rage and feels hard done by when he is trying to fraudulently operate multiple accounts on poker sites.

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1) I opened them because Neteller and MB didnt seem to care and validated the accounts. I bet 75% of all the serious players have more than one account that they operate and perhaps 50% have more than 3 accounts. Dont pretend like this is an uncommon thing.

2) I dont care if they stop me from opening these accounts. But dont validate the accounts and then close them with my money in there. Now, tell me how I am faking Neteller up, they fak you with 2% of the p2p transfers, so they do make money from me having these accounts. Seems like they make more freezing up player´s money and charging interest.

3) If this is a fraud, why did they let me do it then. They were the ones who validated this accounts, not me. When I try to open this account just dont let me do it. End of story. If what I do is wrong just tell me so and come to an aggrement with me about just having one account from my home address, put my money there and let me use it from there. But dont freeze my money for weeks and make me go through all this shet when you were the one who allowed it to happen.

You probably wont get it though. Sounds like you already made up your mind about what you read. Typical of 2+2´s. Gosh when I am going to learn that posting in this forum is a waste of my time. I guess I want to keep surprising myself of how many people actually put their time in replying to other people´s post without nothing really helpful to say. I guess it´s because talking shet is free and a lot of people enjoy it.

[Josem]

Updated Cliff Notes For Thread

1) OP sets up and operates a series of fake accounts in the names of his family members

2) OP is outraged that Neteller and other payment processors stopped his fake accounts

3) OP somehow concocts rage and feels hard done by when he is trying to fraudulently operate multiple accounts on poker sites.

4) OP believes that because he got away with his scam for a short period of time, he should be allowed to continue it.

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Mods should move this thread to BBV.

[kdog]

This forum is getting soft. OP's post has been up almost 5 hours and nobody has called him a thieving, cheating, lying piece of garbage for gnoming. So I'll do it.

OP you got exactly what you deserved. I hope that not only do your web wallets stay frozen, the sites catch you too and confiscate all of your accounts. All your bonus theft will be worth it then huh?

No go away, you get no sympathy here.

[Bobo Fett]

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Cliff Notes For OP

1) OP sets up and operates a series of fake accounts in the names of his family members

2) OP is outraged that Neteller and other payment processors stopped his fake accounts

3) OP somehow concocts rage and feels hard done by when he is trying to fraudulently operate multiple accounts on poker sites.

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1) I opened them because Neteller and MB didnt seem to care and validated the accounts. I bet 75% of all the serious players have more than one account that they operate and perhaps 50% have more than 3 accounts. Dont pretend like this is an uncommon thing.

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LOL. I bet your numbers are WAY WAY WAY too high. Of course there are some people who do things like this, but it is not NEARLY as common as you seem to think. 75%? 50%? I'd venture a guess that you're off by a factor of at LEAST 10, likely much more.

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2) I dont care if they stop me from opening these accounts. But dont validate the accounts and then close them with my money in there. Now, tell me how I am faking Neteller up, they fak you with 2% of the p2p transfers, so they do make money from me having these accounts. Seems like they make more freezing up player´s money and charging interest.

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Someone else already posted something about this and you seem to have ignored it, but I'll try it again. Do you realize that faking is an actual word in the English language? However, I don't think this is the word you intended to use...if you want to say [censored], just say it and it will be filtered out. If you keep saying faking instead of [censored], you just confuse the points you are trying to make.

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3) If this is a fraud, why did they let me do it then. They were the ones who validated this accounts, not me. When I try to open this account just dont let me do it. End of story. If what I do is wrong just tell me so and come to an aggrement with me about just having one account from my home address, put my money there and let me use it from there. But dont freeze my money for weeks and make me go through all this shet when you were the one who allowed it to happen.

You probably wont get it though. Sounds like you already made up your mind about what you read. Typical of 2+2´s. Gosh when I am going to learn that posting in this forum is a waste of my time. I guess I want to keep surprising myself of how many people actually put their time in replying to other people´s post without nothing really helpful to say. I guess it´s because talking shet is free and a lot of people enjoy it.

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Not sure what you expect us to help you with. Is having multiple accounts at these places against the T&C's? Are they allowed to request ID? If so, you're at their mercy. As to why they do it now, this is not uncommon. For example, many poker sites do not ask for ID etc, until you go to cash out, rather than when you initially set the account up.

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Updated Cliff Notes For Thread

1) OP sets up and operates a series of fake accounts in the names of his family members

2) OP is outraged that Neteller and other payment processors stopped his fake accounts

3) OP somehow concocts rage and feels hard done by when he is trying to fraudulently operate multiple accounts on poker sites.

4) OP believes that because he got away with his scam for a short period of time, he should be allowed to continue it.

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4) If I have violated their T&C´s (which I didnt know I was up until now I guess). They can just go ahead and tell me, put my money on one account, keep that one opened for my use, and close the other ones. End of story. I am not saying I should be allowed to continue doing something if it turns out to be wrong. But dont be a [censored] and freeze my money. I stop doing what I do and they dont lose a customer.

[Luzyfer]

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This forum is getting soft. OP's post has been up almost 5 hours and nobody has called him a thieving, cheating, lying piece of garbage for gnoming. So I'll do it.

OP you got exactly what you deserved. I hope that not only do your web wallets stay frozen, the sites catch you too and confiscate all of your accounts. All your bonus theft will be worth it then huh?

No go away, you get no sympathy here.

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There are worse things happening in the poker world. People that open multiple accounts and play on the accounts at one table at the same time. Players cheating other players in tournaments through chip dumping. Casino employees using superuser accounts. Rigged casinos. The list goes on.

I dont do bonus whoring anymore since my bankroll is healthy now for the level I play. I opened those accounts to take advantage of some sign up bonuses that arent hard to clear at the micros in order to build my bankroll. Is that a big crime? Please dude. Lots of well know players create new accounts to hide their identity (David Benyamine comes to mind), so stop with the accusations you whining peace of dogshet.

[Luzyfer]

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Not sure what you expect us to help you with. Is having multiple accounts at these places against the T&C's? Are they allowed to request ID? If so, you're at their mercy.

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As to why they do it now, this is not uncommon. For example, many poker sites do not ask for ID etc, until you go to cash out, rather than when you initially set the account up.

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It was obviously not against Neteller´s or Moneybookers T&C´s since they knew it was the same household/home address and they validated the accounts. It is is against T&C then THEY MADE THE MISTAKE, not me. If I am violating their T&C´s then DONT LET ME DEPOSIT MY MONEY, but dont wait until my money is there to close my account. C´mom guys what I am complaining about is not that hard to get

[Josem]

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There are worse things happening in the poker world.

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We shouldn't penalise minor crimes because major crimes occur? Free all the thieves because we have murderers in the community?

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Lots of well know players create new accounts to hide their identity (David Benyamine comes to mind), so stop with the accusations you whining peace of dogshet.

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I assume that if David Benyamine was breaking the rules, he would be punished the same as anyone else.