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Old 08-29-2007, 10:45 AM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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Default QQ faceup so do I call? 5/10

Villan is 13/11 so it doesnt make sense what he could have. I guess an A but does he call the reraise with AQ AJ? Maybe, but im not sure how someone with those stats plays. Hes unlikely to have KQ and even if he did I doubt he vbets its. So it looks like AK, AA KK and AQ. Would he check the turn with those hands? I dont know, but I really want to call.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($1612.25)
Hero ($1202)
Button ($1518.50)
SB ($1153)
BB ($870)
UTG ($1157)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $120</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $85.

Flop: ($255) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $190</font>, Hero calls $190.

Turn: ($635) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($635) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $610</font>
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:47 AM
Slider Slider is offline
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Default Re: QQ faceup so do I call? 5/10

Definitely fold and it's not close. 13/11s don't bluff.. and if you think they're bluffing - then you make them money.

13/11 plays a different brand of poker. I might even just muck the flop. His 3 betting range is probably QQ+ AK AQs
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:51 AM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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Default Re: QQ faceup so do I call? 5/10

prob. should have just folded flop. I didnt have enough hands to reliably trust the stats fully at that point, and I think I was tilty. But the turn makes it more likely he doesnt have AK KK AA imo or maybe not cause the board is so dry
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:54 AM
JeffM JeffM is offline
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Default Re: QQ faceup so do I call? 5/10

Villian has exactly AK here about 80% of the time with AA and KK making up the other 20% and bluffing ZERO percent. Nits like this pride themselves in playing big hands exactly this way and making it "look like they're bluffing" on the river. What do you honestly expect him to turn over here? Do you really think that you're hand is gonna be good more than half the time?
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: QQ faceup so do I call? 5/10

I'd fold flop. Now fold for sure.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: QQ faceup so do I call? 5/10

yeah for some reason when this hand happened I wrote it down, but it seems like a pretty ez fold/river fold. I did fold. Ill post a better hand next, I promise.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: QQ faceup so do I call? 5/10

I can see why callling flop is okay vs some, but against those stats defenitely let it go earlier then you did.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: QQ faceup so do I call? 5/10

Yeah agreed with the rest, I'd fold flop most likely. Pretty plausible for him to check AK/AA/KK on the turn like that and bet the river on this board.
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