nl400 4way pot overs&fd

[The Man]

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call>raise,fold

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does a call make your hand transparent when another club comes?

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not at all IMO

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But then again it doesn't matter if it makes your hand transparent. Who is gonna fire two barrels into 4 flush board? I think calling is horrible because you have no implied odds. You also have people behind you and when they see that you simply smooth called that flop they are going to push with their two pairs maybe, but definatley their flushes or sets--not that pushing will get them to fold these hands--I just think that villian is bluffing about 5-10% of the time here and you are drawing to a club (possibly less than 9 outs if villain flopped the balls here) and you have to hit it on the turn, because he will almost always bet the turn if a non club falls. I think if an ace or king rolls off it does almost nothing for your hand IMO, but I would probably get attached to my hand. I vote fold or all in, leaning towards fold.

Fold 65% Shove 30% Call 5%