PP 11 Speed - On the bubble; sngpt can't help

[Etric]

SNGPT can't help me because of the limper.

My first impulse was to push and try to double up through Button. I wasn't sure I'd be able to wait out BB to make it ITM... plus it was soooted!

PartyPoker $11 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t7706)
Button (t8309)
Hero (t1910)
BB (t2075)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t400, <font color="red">Hero...? </font>

[Zeke Yeehaw]

I wouldn't be happy about it, but depending on the read on the big stack, I would be pushin'

[JustGotBlzed]

I fold here.... if button folds then i would shove.

[AndrewB]

Fold and pray for the BB to push and lose.

[[Phill]]

Yeah, im folding here.

[Prodigy54321]

I definitely would not push...

it's between a call and a fold for me...I would more likely call along and check/raise allin on a good flop if the button is the type to bet any flop if checked to him..which is likely for most buttons here

[bluefeet]

Just so hard telling. This sucker swings drastically with his limp/shove-calling range.

Limping 22+,A2+,K5+,K2s+,QT+,Q8s+,J9s+
Calling 33+,A4+,A2s+,KQ+,KTs+
= -.37 (where never folding - which is quite possible w/ his stack, it's a whopping -3.74)

Limping 22+,K2+,Q5+,Q2s+,J8+,J5s+,T9+,T7s+,98s+
Calling 22+,A2+,KT+,K9s+,QTs+
= +.27

Bottom line -- fold equity. We need him to fold some hands. I don't know that you have it.

I'd muck w/o a lot of internal debate.

[Prodigy54321]

why does no one like a call here over a fold? I think we get great value from this hand by calling and check/raising some flops and open pushing some others..

[bluefeet]

yeah, pondering the push/call, overlooked that option.

meh...sure. better than folding IMO. if no other chips go in (from us/shortie), it has virtually no effect on our FE. does the hand strength deteriorate some 3way? i suppose. but us adding a few chips to the pot could spawn other favorable happenings as well.

[flyty86]

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why does no one like a call here over a fold? I think we get great value from this hand by calling and check/raising some flops and open pushing some others..

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i agree i take this line alot. i would open push middle pair on the flop