Another Harrah's/Jack Effel Snafu - Page 4

RR · #31 10-10-2007, 03:03 PM

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The floor man rules in my favor. It’s a bet. Robert can call, fold, or raise. While the floor man is talking (before his mind is officially made up), Robert exposes his hand (for the first time). He lies and says that he turned his cards over when he checked, before I said it was a bet, and claims he should not have to pay 2,000 to call because of that.

Robert obviously does not like this ruling, so he calls over Jack Effel.

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ZJ,

this is wrong on so many levels...how did Effel "over-rule" the decision made by the original floorman?? sux that doyle, edler, and original floorman didn't stand up for what is right and for the integrity of poker

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It is standard that the supervisor's decision is final, meaning the supervisor can overrule the floor. Generally the supervisor is more experienced than the floormen, this doesn't have to be the case at a Harrah's property. Also there is a good chance ZJ will not see your comments as this is an old thread.

jogsxyz · #32 10-10-2007, 03:38 PM

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Anyway, on the river the board is 27J9J (in that order I think) with no flush or low possible. I point to the 25k chip in front of me and say bet. The dealer turns to Robert (so that I can’t hear her) and says check. Less than a second later, Robert taps the table indicating a check.

INSTANTLY, I say, “No. I said bet.” Three people at the table including Doyle Brunson and Bill Edler confirm they heard me say bet. Robert argues that he shouldn’t have to pay since he already checked. We call the floor over.

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To bet just put chips into the middle like everyone else.
You must share blame for causing confusion.

pig4bill · #33 10-10-2007, 04:17 PM

What? Read again. He was out of small chips.

jogsxyz · #34 10-10-2007, 06:10 PM

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What? Read again. He was out of small chips.

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So what? Put in the smallest chip and simultaneously announce the amount bet.

MrFizzbin · #35 10-10-2007, 10:06 PM

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What? Read again. He was out of small chips.

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So what? Put in the smallest chip and simultaneously announce the amount bet.

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Ummm I beleive he did that... but who bothers reading anymore...