99 - paired flop

JJack · #1 10-01-2007, 12:41 PM

MP1 is me
no info about opponents
I was quite agro at earlier few hands

Titan Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1.00 (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

SB ($21.40)
BB ($4.50)
MP1 ($42.10)
MP2 ($4.75)
MP3 ($25.00)
CO ($40.25)
Button ($21.50)
MP1 raises, 1 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls,

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( 3.25BB )
BB checks, MP1 bets, 1 folds, BB raises, MP1 calls,

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( 5.25BB )
BB bets, MP1 calls,

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( 7.25BB )
BB bets, MP1 calls,

Final Pot: 8.6BB

standard call down?
i have to win probably about 33% times to make any profit

KitCloudkicker · #2 10-01-2007, 12:51 PM

maybe this is a silly question, but shouldnt you try to datamine tables before sitting down so you have some sort of read?

Aaron W. · #3 10-01-2007, 12:51 PM

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standard call down?

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Depends on the stakes and what the "average" player does at those stakes. I probably muck on the flop.

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i have to win probably about 33% times to make any profit

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After you get check-raised, there is 4.25 BB in the pot. You're calling 2.5 BB (assuming he bets all the way) to win 6.75. It's closer to 25% than 33%. But that's how often you must *win*, not how often you are *ahead* on the flop. If you're ahead of a flush draw, you still only win about 65% of the time (and even less if he has an overcard).

bozlax · #4 10-01-2007, 12:52 PM

Why did you call down?

BigBadBabar · #5 10-01-2007, 12:54 PM

dear boz, please write what you'd do and why, instead of constantly being passive-aggressive to noobs and at the same time providing no useful information. thanks.

JJack · #6 10-01-2007, 12:58 PM

After you get check-raised, there is 4.75 BB in the pot. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Xylocain · #7 10-01-2007, 01:00 PM

BBB there is actually quite a lot of information in bozlax post. In addition to that, it also implies how OP should go about these kind of hands.

bozlax · #8 10-01-2007, 01:03 PM

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dear boz, please write what you'd do and why, instead of constantly being passive-aggressive to noobs and at the same time providing no useful information. thanks.

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Dear Babar, it's called Socratic method, the theory being that a person learns more rapidly and completely if they are guided through thinking out the answer themselves rather than being spoon-fed every answer. It's why we ask noobs to give us an idea of their reads and thought processes rather than just posting hands and asking, "How should I play this?"

mkaythx

bozlax · #9 10-01-2007, 01:06 PM

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maybe this is a silly question, but shouldnt you try to datamine tables before sitting down so you have some sort of read?

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How many sites is one even able to datamine anymore? And not for nothing, and maybe this is a silly question in response to a silly question, but don't you think there's some value in learning how to think about hands when you don't have a read?

JJack · #10 10-01-2007, 01:07 PM

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maybe this is a silly question, but shouldnt you try to datamine tables before sitting down so you have some sort of read?

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I clear bonus at new room and dont have data yet