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Old 09-29-2007, 03:09 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default JTo I flop top pair+gutshot and I dont know what the correct play is

Live 10/20 full.

5 players limp, I limp J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the button, blinds complete.

Flop is T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Blinds check, 1 limper checks, 2nd limper bets. 1 caller, next guy raises. A fold and its on me.

Nothing remarkable about these players so far, everyone is playing pretty straightforward.

Plan?
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: JTo I flop top pair+gutshot and I dont know what the correct play

I usually fold this spot. My T is probably no good, and even if it is I have a reverse implied odds problem. The draw at best is to a chop and catching a J is usually no good. And there's a flush draw.

I just can't think of a compelling reason to continue.
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: JTo I flop top pair+gutshot and I dont know what the correct play

I should add that if I'm going to continue the hand I like a three bet better than calling two cold. The goal would be to get it heads up. I don't know how your normal 10/20 plays, but if my experience in the Canterbury 8/16 means anything I don't think it will usually work on such a drawy board.
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: JTo I flop top pair+gutshot and I dont know what the correct play is

I'm calling and reevaluating on the turn, hoping to raise.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: JTo I flop top pair+gutshot and I dont know what the correct play is

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I'm calling and reevaluating on the turn, hoping to raise.

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lol.

spot on, though.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: JTo I flop top pair+gutshot and I dont know what the correct play is

The raiser is bit far away to be trying to buy the button or a free card, is he aggro enough to push a flush draw or pair+BDFD here? Anytime there is 2 to a suit out I try to watch out for this. Note that QJ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] might raise here as well with a ton of equity.

Call and reevaluate unless you've got a great read on that raiser (passive=fold, aggro=call)
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:55 PM
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I agree. fold
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:05 PM
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Easy fold
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: JTo I flop top pair+gutshot and I dont know what the correct play

Hey Kit you have to stop it with the tough situations LOL...

You have TP but facing two cold and unknown action behind, and with 4 outs you have about a 16% chance of making your straight.. which may be worthless if the board gets clubbed again.

FOLD.
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: JTo I flop top pair+gutshot and I dont know what the correct play

i think this is a pretty solid call
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