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Old 09-18-2007, 08:52 PM
SGS SGS is offline
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Default Full House, WTF?

Villian is Spiked. I have only played like 150 hands with him. I have him at 25/16. This is only like his 4th or 5th hand at the table. Also pre sometimes I squeeze there, but this time I didn't. I could see him betting the turn with a worse hand, but CR seems a little more doubtful. anyways... thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,980.00
Hero (BB): $2,067.00
UTG: $2,475.80
MP: $2,349.00
CO: $997.00
BTN: $2,381.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $70.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $60.00, Hero calls $50.00

Flop: ($210) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($210) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $160.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $520.00</font>, Hero Calls

River: ($1250) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $1,390.00</font>, Hero ?

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Old 09-18-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Full House, WTF?

i'd snapcall since u wernt pfr
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: Full House, WTF?

I'd call, quads are hard to make
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Full House, WTF?

Your hand is very underepped. He could be making this play with a ton of hands. At least call turn, possibly even 3 bet
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:09 PM
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Your hand is very underepped. He could be making this play with a ton of hands. At least call turn, possibly even 3 bet

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Err...Spiked isn't gonna do this for value with anything worse, maaaaybe 99. OP's hand looks exactly like what it is and that's why it's a sick spot. Also on the turn we can be pretty sure Spiked is shoving every river
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Full House, WTF?

I don't get it, first you said call, now are you saying fold? Also wouldn't this be a pretty sick way to play AA or KK?

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Old 09-18-2007, 11:55 PM
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I don't get it, first you said call, now are you saying fold? Also wouldn't this be a pretty sick way to play AA or KK?

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I am still saying call, but I was disagreeing with Trambo because I think you are only beating bluffs. Spiked is not gonna have AA or KK that often here, but yea, when he does I think he plays it like this, and plays JJ and QQ that way too.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Full House, WTF?

I has a
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: Full House, WTF?

We can ignore quads. Sure, he might have called PF with 67s, and hold the quads...I recently had that exact hand. But if so we lose, and the odds are slight.

We don't care about 33, and in fact after the turn, this is basically a pre-flop situation. No one has any help from the board, and there is an all-in to call with pocket 10's. Do you call?

Sure, AQ or QQ is a problem, but again there's a slight chance.

The villain knows you called one big raise, so he has to expect a call, so bluff is a slim chance. So either he thinks he has high card, or he has a pocket pair. Before the river, there was a slight str8 draw, but that's gone.

I look at this as a likely PP showdown, and since I'm given some odds, I want to call.

A pair is a powerful thing. I once saw Ivey call a push from a no-name with 55. He lost to KT on a flush draw, but it shows the power pro's attach to a made pair.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:14 PM
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Good god, I actually read that entire post thinking it was EC10, I wasn't sure if it was a level or what...
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