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Old 09-08-2007, 12:57 PM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($579.60)
Button ($545)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $105</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $204</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $634</font>,

Before you say: this is automatic, don't see monsters under your bed and that stuff - LOOK AT THE STACKS and realize this is 1/2NL. We both have almost 3BI on the table. Should I fold here? I can't see him doing this without a flush here and the only flushes I can beat are 52s and 95s and 32s. It is true that I have been superaggressive up to that point but I can't see him doing this with a set (maybe there is 5-10% chance he is doing this with a set). On the other hand, I can't see how I can ever fold a flopped flush. This is sick, but am I supposed to fold here? Or would you play it differently, just calling reraise on the flop and trying to keep the pot small and maybe folding on the river because then it would be obvius he has me beat? What do you think about that hand?
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep

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Old 09-08-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep

I would call b/c i think this is a moment where you have over 1/3 of your stack in, and i believe that he would do this with a set or the A high flush draw w/ a pair in hopes that you lay down. The small bet and raise wouldn't be odd for like top pair with nut flush draw, and once you raise he has a good chance to force you out or draw getting decent odds to beat you. And if he does have you beat you have two outs, not that that's a good deal, but you're not completely dead.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep

fold. it is rigged as he has raised to over 600 with only 545$ on the table
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:44 PM
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fold. it is rigged as he has raised to over 600 with only 545$ on the table

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lol. I didn't even realize.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep

He raises to 539 at the end. Coverter screwed up.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:53 PM
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I would call b/c i think this is a moment where you have over 1/3 of your stack in, and i believe that he would do this with a set or the A high flush draw w/ a pair in hopes that you lay down. The small bet and raise wouldn't be odd for like top pair with nut flush draw, and once you raise he has a good chance to force you out or draw getting decent odds to beat you. And if he does have you beat you have two outs, not that that's a good deal, but you're not completely dead.

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He put the fourth raise in. You think he would do that without a flush? With only one pair plus a flush draw?
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep

would he be doing this with the nut flush though? i think most people might slow play it a bit and this really looks like that AxAc could take. if he had a non nut flush that beat you wouldnt he think the same and not move all in? he probably has the AA or a set, or so you would hope and pray when callin!
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:09 PM
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would he be doing this with the nut flush though? i think most people might slow play it a bit and this really looks like that AxAc could take. if he had a non nut flush that beat you wouldnt he think the same and not move all in? he probably has the AA or a set, or so you would hope and pray when callin!

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One hand he had a set and he fastplayed. He checkraised flop and moved in on the turn. It was a reraised pot though. So I think he doesn't slowplay big hands. And it wasn't a scary board. I mean - it is so obvius I had a great hand and I never played such a big pot yet, I was just confused a little bit.
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep

Ouch.

Is this one of those times that that voice in your head screams: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"?????

I guess go with the voice in your head.

Ouch.
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