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Old 09-02-2007, 11:27 AM
AaronOC AaronOC is offline
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Default A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

Villain is 18/13/3.25 over the past 60 hands, i haven't noticed him getting out of line and this is the first time he has 3 bet me, i usually flat call 3 bets with AA trying to get value from AK or AQ, is a 4 bet better? I think i have to fold river, is anyone calling it?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($418.80)
Button ($207)
SB ($28)
BB ($200)
UTG ($107.35)
Hero ($251.93)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $18.

Flop: ($51) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($111) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($111) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $85</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $111
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

As played I think its fine.

I would 4-bet PF though.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

Shove flop. I might call river, it's close I think.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

call river, your hand is way underrepresented
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

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Shove flop. I might call river, it's close I think.

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I think shoving flop is bad. We know next to nothing about villains 3-bet frequencies and all I know is that tight players like this are not 3-bet monkeys that are going to felt QQ and JJ here, let alone lesser hands.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

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Shove flop. I might call river, it's close I think.

[/ QUOTE ]are worse hands calling if i shove?
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:41 AM
Michaelson Michaelson is offline
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Default Re: A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

QQ-JJ will call almost always, AT, QJ and flush draws might call, and if they fold that's fine too, and AQ/AJ don't get to draw out.

Dunno, maybe it's wrong, but that's how I'd play it if I flatted preflop.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

I think we can discount flushdraws since we have the Ad and the Kd is on the board. Also, adding AT and QJ to the 3-bet range of a relatively unknown seems a bit of a stretch imo. AJ very doubtfull aswell. He might have AQ.

I must admit I'm not sure if they take QQ/JJ to the felt, since I almost never smootcall this PF since they have such a tight range and have trouble folding once they put in that 3-bet.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

I read this initially as Button v BB, not sure why.

Flop play is redundant, 4-bet preflop.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: A very wierd spot w/AA 200nl

Can't stand the river fold. I would bet the turn.
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