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Old 03-24-2007, 04:19 PM
danzasmack danzasmack is offline
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Default metagame question kinda

i don't knwo what the word for it is, but any

CO raises, SB cold calls, i call K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Flop is 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Checks to CO, SB calls, i c/r the field both call

turn blank

I bet, CO calls, SB folds

river blank

Do any types of players ever fold AQ? I said nobody does.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

I don't like to know what the blanks were in general. I think people can fold A9/A8/AK/AQ pretty often depending on opponent.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

Depends what the limits are, as I imagine the lower limit TAGs are more apt to say "What can I beat?" and completely ignore all the missed draws that they can beat. But I think folding out AQ is pretty rare here. My guess is you're realistically trying to fold out A9/A8 or KQ or keep K9/Q9 from bluffing you off the hand if you bet. Not sure that makes a bet profitable though.

BTW, did you consider 3betting preflop here? I think I like to because it gives me a chance to bet/3bet Kxx and Qxx flops that inevitably hit someone's KJ/QJ/88 type hands and they always call down from there.
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

"BTW, did you consider 3betting preflop here"

yes
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

I think if I wasn't following up on the river, I probably wouldn't bet the turn.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

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I think if I wasn't following up on the river, I probably wouldn't bet the turn.

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So you would play the hand how then? Sorry I'm curious
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

metagame in limit? i dont think the word even applies to this kind of situation (not LHE but 6max in a hand like this).

HU, maybe.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

"Metagaming is a broad term usually used to define any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, or goes beyond the supposed limits or environment set by the game"

So I'm wondering, does an unknown call me on the river here with A-hi? I'm not making a matagame play by betting/checking, i'm talking about the current "metagame". Like in HU where nobody would fold a pair to me ever. I'm not talking about my play, I'm talking about his.

Does he call me on the river with AQhi here always? I used to not think so, like a year ago, now I can't be convinced otherwise. I wanted some opinions on the current metagame. Not "lol i open shove 7hi and show for metagame." Think one past that.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

I agree, i think i fire... I also strongly consider a 3bet preflop...
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

So you fold to a river bet with AQ? So if I posted

"Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero raises, SB calls, bb call

Flop J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Checked to hero who bets, Sb call, BB c/r's, I call Sb calls

Turn Blank

BB bets, I call, SB fold

River Blank

BB Bets, I..."

You wouldn't say "as played call river"?
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