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Old 11-08-2007, 12:17 PM
willw9 willw9 is offline
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Default 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

Villain is UMD Tennis, running 19/16/3 over 10.6k hands. This is quite literally my first hand at the table, and we have no recent history. I'm sure he has notes/stats on me though.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $707.90
SB: $59.10
Hero (BB): $400
UTG: $405.70
MP: $470.40
CO: $408

Pre-Flop: X X dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50</font>, CO calls $36

Flop: ($102) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $76</font>, CO calls $76

Turn: ($254) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $282 and is All-In</font>
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

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I'm sure he has notes/stats on me though.

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Which would be?
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

This is an interesting spot.

What does anyone check the turn with there that they will call a push with? Am I wrong, or is this a good spot for us if we are villain with 88-TT/67s/34s/45s and push the turn if checked to?

Like what hand checks the turn there that will call a push - ever?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

Here I call this turn with:
-any set (obviously)
-KK, AA (obviously)
-AQ, KQ
-any pocket pair 88-JJ (so this is the worst hand I'd call with). Note--I wouldnt call with these pairs if the flop hadn't been 2-flush. Also, the only reason most of this range is callable other than the sets is that we checked the turn.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

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Here I call this turn with:
-any set (obviously)
-KK, AA (obviously)
-AQ, KQ
-any pocket pair 88-JJ (so this is the worst hand I'd call with). Note--I wouldnt call with these pairs if the flop hadn't been 2-flush. Also, the only reason most of this range is callable other than the sets is that we checked the turn.

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Which of those hands do you check the turn with?
I think the overall checking range is an important part of this.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

eh.. 1010+
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

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I'm sure he has notes/stats on me though.

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Which would be?

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Probably something like I run 22/18/~4, I'm the best player in the world, etc etc
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

i think KQ is the cutoff here. definitely AQ+
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

I think he wants you to call light and I think he has a Q.

The way the games are playing, I think you would bet the turn with top top or better (because of the draws and how people stack off pretty light), so I don't think he's affraid of that.
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Old 11-09-2007, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - What\'s the worse hand you stack off with?

Very good discussion so far. I actually c/c the turn with KK, and he showed KQ and mhig.
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