Why online poker sucks.

[WhoIam]

If only there were a way of getting some of this rake back, then maybe it wouldn't be killing the games.

[AbreuTime]

The rake is capped at 1/20 of a big blind at my stakes. That ain't bad. Maybe you just need to move up in higher stakes. The rake stays pretty much the same, so it becomes less on a percentage basis. So if you're winning, you can win more!

Good luck!

[Albert Silver]

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If only there were a way of getting some of this rake back, then maybe it wouldn't be killing the games.

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Sorry, but that's not possible, let's not dream.

I mean, do you know how much rake they take out of a $2000 pot in the $0.01/0.02 mid-stakes games? It's just ridiculous.

[STOPRAKEGREED]

I just pulled up a 6 max 3-6 game on fulltilt. They are getting about a hundred hands an hour and the rake is up to $3. So they are taking off about $150/hror $25/hr for each player. If you don't think this is a joke, you are a fool or on the payroll. FOOLS! THIS IS WHY ONLINE SUCKS.

[thac]

As opposed to a 1/2 game at a casino that gets 20 hands an hour with the rake capped at $4 (when the pot reaches $20 [read: always]), that's like $50/hr assuming a few hands don't get the max rake, and that's only 1/2! Then include dealer tokes + waitress tips too.

[sputum]

Just set yourself rake limits and stop playing when you hit them. If you can't do this I recommend GA

[blackize]

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If you don't think this is a joke, you are a fool or on the payroll. FOOLS! THIS IS WHY ONLINE SUCKS.

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I prithee sir, what is the solution to the "rake greed" "problem"?

[BiggieFats]

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I just pulled up a 6 max 3-6 game on fulltilt. They are getting about a hundred hands an hour and the rake is up to $3. So they are taking off about $150/hror $25/hr for each player. If you don't think this is a joke, you are a fool or on the payroll. FOOLS! THIS IS WHY ONLINE SUCKS.

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Why do you torture yourself then if it sucks so much? Just get all your money out, uninstall all the poker software from your computer and your problem is solved. End of thread.

[JamieO]

Hey stop, while i dont agree with a lot of what youve said, i do agree that the rake is far too high in most online games.

However, its not even worth arguing about it on here. Awhile ago, I merely brought up the point that IMO the "standard" rake that is common online today is not optimal for the growth of the games and the future of online poker. For this i was flamed repeatedly.

This forum is full of shills who will try to make you feel stupid for questioning the profit margin of the major poker sites. They feel that the rake is great the way it is for two reasons. Either they are affiliated with some site, or they make a living playing on a site and think that those who complain about the rake are just poor players. Then they talk about rakeback and try to equate rakeback or fpps with a lower rake which is just stupid.

You will not be able to have a constructive conversation on this forum about this subject. No one seems to care that the low limits are where beginners start out and that right now it is harder than ever for them to win. They just say "move up limits then you will hardly notice the rake... blah blah blah." Nevermind the fish who are getting picked apart by the rake at the lower limits. These fish have a far smaller chance of going on a hot streak winning a little bit, and then donking it off at the bigger tables.

Anyways IMO the combination of the high rake and the better players is making for a far lower percentage of winning players at the lower levels. AND THIS IS VERY BAD FOR THE GAME.

FLAME ON SHILLS.

[JamieO]

RAKEBACK IS NOT THE CURE FOR ABSURD RAKE