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Old 10-25-2007, 06:58 PM
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Is this a call if I didn't have the K of Hearts?

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($400)
UTG ($466.30)
Hero ($1405.50)
CO ($105.40)
Button ($394)
SB ($646.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $12, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($32) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $28</font>, SB calls $28.

Turn: ($88) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $80</font>, SB calls $80.

River: ($248) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $232</font>, Hero calls $232.

Final Pot: $712
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:01 PM
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i'd fold the river. what do you put him on? top pair being turned into a bluff? that's the only way you can justify calling here ... more than likely he had some sort of combo heart/straight draw
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:15 PM
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only real good combo draw is AQhh. all other combos are pretty dead bc I have the Kh. unless he had flopped a straight or a set of 9s (which is unlikely bc he would have check raised or been more aggressive somewhere bc of the drawy nature of the board) I think this is a bluff 80% of the time.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:22 PM
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yea, i call rather quickly here.....you having Kh puts it over the edge imo
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:24 PM
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you didn't answer my question. what do you put him on? and what about AhTh, 8hTh, 7h8h, 6h8h, 6h7h?
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:25 PM
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you didn't answer my question. what do you put him on? and what about AhTh, 8hTh, 7h8h, 6h8h, 6h7h?

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don't think a reg with these stats call any of that oop with out some kind of cr or something
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:26 PM
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yea, i call rather quickly here.....you having Kh puts it over the edge imo

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Thats what I thought, I snap called. What about if I didn't have the King of Hearts.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:28 PM
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now you're just being stubborn. he's 22/17, not nit/nit.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:38 PM
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This is a clear fold but I always call here because im stubborn and have two pair. No one bluffs like this. Most strong hands raise earlier. KQ is a small part of his range and almost never donks.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:40 PM
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The only flushes I can see are flush draw on the flop + gutshot on turn (6h8h &amp; 6h7h), maybe 5hxh...

If he just call the flop with 7h8h, Th8h or AhQh, he is very bad, I think.

I probably call the river, I don't see him with a str8 or a set.
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