Wynn Floor Decision: Weird Spot

[WillyT]

I was a bit confused. I would have thought what Mrfizzbin suggested to be correct, and still do.

What happened was that the floor initially suggested MP and BTN each owe another small bet from what they missed preflop. BTN was a bit angry about this insisting that it can't be right because he had no opportunity to 5 bet preflop if he wanted and that it couldn't be replayed now since there had been action on the flop.
After the very small outcry the floor conceded to having BB take back 1 small bet which he agreed to, probably being happy about it as he folded the turn.

Learn something new every day.

Thanks all,
Bill

[Chief911]

Hmm. I just reread the OP, and didnt see the part about action after the flop. IMHO, the two who didnt call pre now have dead hands.

Nick

[UbinTook]

The players who havent acted hold part of the resposibility to stop the action when the dealer misses it( who gets at least a verbal warning in this case.)
Those hands should be dead.
Consider it a form of protecting your hand... if you dont stop the action if you can, and try to take advantage of a situation, the hand is dead.

[bav]

I hate Chief's and Ellen's answers... no the hands are not dead because they didn't notice a raise and neither did the dealer. The guy who put the raise in would be in angle-city if you allowed that; a player can just silently wait for the flop and a few bets and then suddenly proclaim "your hands are all dead--my pot because you failed to call my raise pre-flop". Nope.

I'm ok with having the player who didn't get called extract his raise, or having the two players who hadn't called correct their action. Since the players were all amenable to "take back the uncalled raise", that's good. I think I would tend toward requiring the guys who failed to call put the last bets in, though, if there were no consensus.

[RERAISE5823]

LOL minbet.

[Twistofsin]

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LOL minbet.

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You drug this post up from months ago just to say that?

[crackhead]

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LOL minbet.

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You drug this post up from months ago just to say that?

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and he didn't even bother to notice that it was a LIMIT game in the OP. so, no "min"-bet.

[budblown]

1 of 2 things should happen, either the players who didn't call the last bet pre-flop call and the board stays as is with the current action, or board is removed players must then call the 4th bet and then deck is reshuffled and new flop. With this much action it seems that making the 2 players just put in the extra bet would be the easiest solution.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

I would have to rule that because significant action has occurred on the flop, long after the mistake was made, the flop will stand. Given the point where the action was stopped, the players who were light should pay up, after which the action should continue.

Al

[youtalkfunny]

Wow, I'm glad that most of you aren't floormen!

I like the floor's solution, especially since all involved felt satisfied with it.