QQ deep against UTG nit who called a re-raise

AshleyC · #1 11-13-2007, 07:24 PM

Villan is U2Killers, who I have at 17/13. I think his range for raising UTG and calling a re-raise is narrow. We're playing 215bbs deep.

If I am check-raised on this flop I'll probably puke, so I elect to check behind for deception purposes and to get value on later streets from TT and even maybe 1 street from AK, and to stop myself from vomitting when villan inevitably C/R with TT/JJ/KK/AA, but would fold to a 4 flop bet with TT/JJ most probably.

If I did bet the flop, how would you react to a check-raise?
Call, re-evaluate turn? AI, fold? I guess my line would be call and re-evaluate turn and probably fold to a turn bet.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($98)
CO ($52.30)
Hero ($214.95)
SB ($99)
BB ($211.45)
UTG ($281.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $3.5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, UTG calls $8.50.

Flop: ($25.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($25.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG calls $15.

River: ($55.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $55.50

cs3 · #2 11-13-2007, 07:30 PM

bet more on turn.

i think he has exactly TT/JJ here and i really dont mind a donkishly small river bet of like 15-20$

spivey · #3 11-13-2007, 07:31 PM

Actually, his range preflop is probably any pair. Bet flop. As played, VB river. He's a nit, he's not going to be check/raising you almost ever. If he does, it's a snap fold.

EasyAs1-2-3 · #4 11-13-2007, 07:34 PM

I'm betting flop as well and agree that his range includes any pair. As played bet more on turn. I think VB on riv is also in order.

orange · #5 11-13-2007, 07:43 PM

bet the river. he's not going to have AK.

matt85 · #6 11-13-2007, 07:52 PM

This is screaming out for a river bet of about $20 which he may call call with TT/JJ although i'm absolutely certain he puts you on AK/AQ so it would be a crying call on his part.

I probably bet the flop to see where you are as well although given your read checking isn't too bad.

SamuraiJon · #7 11-13-2007, 07:56 PM

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This is screaming out for a river bet of about $20 which he may call call with TT/JJ although i'm absolutely certain he puts you on AK/AQ so it would be a crying call on his part.

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AshleyC · #8 11-13-2007, 07:57 PM

Villan had AA (phew), and typed in the chat afterwards that he was certain that I had AK/AQ and would value bet the river. I just had a strange feeling during the hand, his timing tells, I guess that I really felt that he was strong, and I didnt dare face a flop check-raise. After the hand I wondered how well I played the hand, and if I was just being results orientated.

spivey · #9 11-13-2007, 08:57 PM

Very well played on his part.

slvrlakesmoke · #10 11-13-2007, 09:09 PM

Since you are both over 200BB's deep, you're raise needs to be a lot more than 12 in order to cut down on his implied odds. I would probably have made it 20 or so. As played, he would be correct to call here with any PP, which is within his UTG range.

There is no reason not to be this flop though. You need to start extracting value from hands like TT ,JJ and maybe one street of AK. On the other hand, the board is dry enough to where if he shoves, or c/r raises you, I think you can make an easier decision to fold. Players like these tend to typically be aware of the stack sizes as well, so chances are he doesn't want to turn this pot into a bluff when you are this deep.