Ethicality of High Stakes HU - DaEvila

[Thrahl]

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it is the online corporation . that is what was done to play andy beal . wish i could get a piece

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Difference being, Beal was aware of it and agreed to it before hand. He knew exactly who he was playing. At no point was he playing more than one person simultaneously.

You think Beal would ever agree to a match where Ivey,Barry G. and Doyle were collectively playing every hand against him?

[VitoT]

in the youtube video with the brownies, u see whitelime and krantz playing together againts perkyshmerky HU 200/400, so why u all so surprised about it ? all those "teams" are playing together these big games, even if it is againts "donks".
i just don't understand why they so afraid of playing againts PA, they afraid to play him even if they are 2-3-4 people vs one very good ?

[futuredoc85]

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in the youtube video with the brownies, u see whitelime and krantz playing together againts perkyshmerky HU 200/400, so why u all so surprised about it ? all those "teams" are playing together these big games, even if it is againts "donks".
i just don't understand why they so afraid of playing againts PA, they afraid to play him even if they are 2-3-4 people vs one very good ?

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they do play him sometimes, im pretty sure there's a hand in HSNL right now that Krantz played vs PA, genius played him recently too i think. Its just that game selection is super important HU.

[VitoT]

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they do play him sometimes, im pretty sure there's a hand in HSNL right now that Krantz played vs PA, genius played him recently too i think. Its just that game selection is super important HU.

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i meant that this is a huge advantage for them playing as a team, againts 1, in "heads up" match, which supposed to be 1-on-1, and not 2-on-1 (maybe even more), and it's not like it is 2, 0.25/0.50 players,againts a 300/600 player.
it's like putting 2 of the best 20 chess players againts 1 Kasparov, i'm pretty sure they will put money in, if that kind of match was offered, and will beat him together.

[lapoker17]

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i meant that this is a huge advantage for them playing as a team, againts 1, in "heads up" match, which supposed to be 1-on-1, and not 2-on-1 (maybe even more), and it's not like it is 2, 0.25/0.50 players,againts a 300/600 player.
it's like putting 2 of the best 20 chess players againts 1 Kasparov, i'm pretty sure they will put money in, if that kind of match was offered, and will beat him together.

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yeah, but dude, it's antonius.

[ahnuld]

just to be clear its not like they would put whitelime the super lag in and then tag fwf the super nit in for a completely different style. It was for the duration of most of the matches if advice was being given so it translated into a constant playing style if that helps.


And this goes on alot at high stakes so you should expect it. Not to say everyone does it. But its known krantz and whitelime live together so expect it and if you dont like it dont play. I think where it gets unethical is if I gave krantz my ahnuld account to play when noone would have any idea.

[gbporkpie]

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they do play him sometimes, im pretty sure there's a hand in HSNL right now that Krantz played vs PA, genius played him recently too i think. Its just that game selection is super important HU.

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i meant that this is a huge advantage for them playing as a team, againts 1, in "heads up" match, which supposed to be 1-on-1, and not 2-on-1 (maybe even more), and it's not like it is 2, 0.25/0.50 players,againts a 300/600 player.
it's like putting 2 of the best 20 chess players againts 1 Kasparov, i'm pretty sure they will put money in, if that kind of match was offered, and will beat him together.

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This isn't right. I don't know how Krantz etc. operate but for the most part deomacritc teamwork blows. You're better off with one clear leader. This is especially true when you have to make quick decisions.

It's funny you mention chess and Kasparov. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasparov_versus_The_World

I think people playing on other people's accounts/changing usernames is a much bigger issue for HU.

[VitoT]

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they do play him sometimes, im pretty sure there's a hand in HSNL right now that Krantz played vs PA, genius played him recently too i think. Its just that game selection is super important HU. [ QUOTE ]
i meant that this is a huge advantage for them playing as a team, againts 1, in "heads up" match, which supposed to be 1-on-1, and not 2-on-1 (maybe even more), and it's not like it is 2, 0.25/0.50 players,againts a 300/600 player.
it's like putting 2 of the best 20 chess players againts 1 Kasparov, i'm pretty sure they will put money in, if that kind of match was offered, and will beat him together.

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There is one thing to challange just for the challange, like Kasparov did, and other is to play on these amounts of money on the line.
the main difference is that Kasparov played againts amatures, as called "donks" by the poker world terms, and here there are 2 pros doing it againts one "donk", it's just not make any logic. and it was unethical even if they were doing it againts PA or any other top pro, which for sure they did before.
I'm sure if u were playing HU againts someone, and after losing was found that u played againts two or more people, u were feeling raped.
There was a time during the match tie was asking DaEvils on the chat : "i need a 10 minuts break, is it ok ? ", and it seemed like it is a very wealthy person who knows he is playing top players and just try to keep it ethical, telling by that he is not "hit and run".
And maybe cause of all the noise around tie is gone, maybe he is not the greatest poker player in the world, but he know to read and understand what is going on.