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Old 08-14-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

Serious question.

Only after watching High Stakes Poker extensively I got a rough idea what the best players' strengths are - and in the end it always comes down to them knowing pretty accurately where they are at in a hand, and against specific opponents. Now I couldn't tell you exactly how Negreanu wins tournaments, but I know that his awesome ability at reading opponents' hands has got something to do with it. Similar for other players.

Phil, however, played very badly on the show. He had no clue where he was at. The tournament excerpts I have seen with him showed him making some great laydowns but not much more. I don't know what parts of his game make him "great".

Also, with his style of small bets (again, I don't know exactly how it works) I can't see how he's able to amass a mountain of chips. And his great laydowns are impressive, but avoiding big confrontations at all costs doesn't seem to be a tourney-winning strategy.

So anyone with insight on how he got past 3000 players at this year's WSOP for example? Thanks.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

How many hands did you watch? 5, maybe 6? He doesn't always play like that. Furthermore, the people he was playing with were much better than the people he plays against in the WSOP...
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

lol donkaments
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

He's playing small pots, so he doesn't lose a lot of chips and is able to hang around. Eventually he makes people pay for overplaying their hand when he ends up with a good hand. The fact that he whines so much probably helps people gun for him a little bit, bringing those mistakes on more frequently.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

He invented the "small ball" style of tournament poker

He is expert at reading strength/weakness

He is PHIL HELLMUTH!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

From what i see, he gets paid a lot on his overpairs to someone's top pair.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

He can dodge bullets, that's how.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

Ive never been at his table, but everyone I tale to says he plays supertight and ONLY in position
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

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Ive never been at his table, but everyone I tale to says he plays supertight and ONLY in position

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You mean like the J2o hand in the "1 hole"?

Tuco.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

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lol donkaments

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This is pretty much the correct answer.
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