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Old 08-15-2007, 01:58 AM
grouchie grouchie is offline
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Default 100NL Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

Ok, at the table for less than an orbit.
How bad is this call?
I made it because another guy was coming along.
I figure if it's heads up, it's auto fold because of stack sizes.

This is definatly something I struggle with.


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $96.90
BB: $128.65
UTG: $99.00
UTG+1: $122.70
Hero (MP): $97.00
CO: $100.90
BTN: $130.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $15.00</font>, SB calls $14.50, BB folds, Hero calls $11.00
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

Yea I prob call here with the extra guy and full stacks.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

It looks a little -EV, but frankly you're gonna stack someone (if you're really lucky, both) if you hit, an awful lot of time. I'd probably call.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

its meh...I would like it a lot more if you were even 115 BB deep instead if 100.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

I think you have to call, even if it is slghtly $EV-. If you fold here, you fold to reraises too often and look weak.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

If you are calling for set value u are overestimating your implied odds. To call for anything else than set value u have to have a read on the players.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

As in you think he won't get a stack when he hits?

Or Just with stack sizes?
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

he won't allways hit a stack. 3better might have about any hand if he 3b light and won't stack off with 44 for example. The cold caller might very well have a hand like TT+/AK and if an overcard is on the flop or if he doesn't hit his ace...
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

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Old 08-15-2007, 03:45 AM
TheProdigy TheProdigy is offline
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Default Re: Calling Re-raises OOP... How bad is this?

I agree and disagree.

At 200nl+ now, I would never make the call after the guy raises to 30 with 200 stacks. If someone posted the same hand except doubled and at 200nl, I would fold all day.

At 100nl though I think this is quite debatable and not really +EV or -EV that much. It looks like this guy has AA/KK regardless, and the caller behind could have a pretty good hand as well. I think he gets a stack VERY often here, like &gt;90% probably.

Maybe I just have made the illusion to myself that 100nl is more of a fishfest than it actually is because of my(probably luck filled) success there.

Maybe someone can chime in from 100 as to how often you think he gets a stack here? If I remember the games it seems like he gets a stack very often if he hits, but again maybe I am just convincing myself that 100nl was really easy and maybe it wasn't so easy after all but I just ran good and got a lot of donkeys to stack off.

Edit: For clarity, I mix this play up a bit at 200nl with regs. If I just fold here every time then it basically means my calling area for 200nl of a raise is QQ+, AK. I would like them to view my range as 22+, AJs+ or something like that, because otherwise I wouldn't get much action. Obv. this isn't vs a reg so different situation. Maybe my play is a bit spewey, but NL awards bold aggressive calls preflop.
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