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#81
10-14-2005, 05:03 PM
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Re: How did you get where you current are?
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well i think it helps that i dont play for a living and losing 1/3 of my roll over a few days isn't hugely detrimental to me. [/ QUOTE ] ahh, the bruiser school of thought. if you could only run as good as he! 
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#82
10-14-2005, 05:17 PM
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Re: How did you get where you current are?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It looks like the trend here is that you have to take shots to get anywhere, unless you want to take years to get from $1/$2 to $30/$60. This thread has been toggled [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] in my rise through the levels (only to 10/20 algthough i could play higher) i have always had an adequate bankroll. [/ QUOTE ] That's good to hear. If you don't mind my asking, how many hands has it taken for you to move from one limit to another? [/ QUOTE ] i bought in for 200 and started playin 1/2 on party and $10 sngs about 2yrs ago. i had more behind me but i didnt really set out to be big time gambler. i was in school and just played for fun when i wasnt studying or partying. about a year ago i had about 800 in my acct and moved to 2/4. the games were super soft and i crushed and ran to 1500 and jumped to 3-6 and bought this cool thing called pt. here i had the sickest run of my life where i ran 5bb/100 for 20k hands. with about a 3k roll i jumped to 5/10 short and ran 5 for 15k and 3 after 50k. now i was pretty sure i was a poker god and i just found out about rakeback. so i ditched my job for the plush life of an internet gambler. first month: huge 350b downswing over 30k hands but after 100k hands i was at 2bb/100 at 5/10. my roll had been plenty big enough to go to 10/20 for while but i always got pounded upon moving up. finally it stuck and ive played over 100k hands of 10/20 at around 1bb/100. i should note that i have endured some absolutely appalling downswings and breakeven stretches at 10/20 that i am sure most of the board hasnt seen. it could be cuz i suck or just have been unlucky.
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#83
10-14-2005, 05:46 PM
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Re: How did you get where you current are?
I don't play for a living either, and I'm ultracompetitive as well.
However, even playing 5/10 makes me want to puke sometimes. What's wrong with me?
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#84
10-14-2005, 05:54 PM
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Re: How did you get where you current are?
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I don't play for a living either, and I'm ultracompetitive as well. However, even playing 5/10 makes me want to puke sometimes. What's wrong with me? [/ QUOTE ] Cultivate a disdain for money. I mean, like, actively. Start by burning $20 bills if you need to. It's important.
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#85
10-14-2005, 07:12 PM
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Re: How did you get where you current are?
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I don't play for a living either, and I'm ultracompetitive as well. However, even playing 5/10 makes me want to puke sometimes. What's wrong with me? [/ QUOTE ] The only thing that works for me right now is having a source of income outside of poker that will alwyas pay the bills. It's the only way I can lose big and not care. Seriously, If I had no other source of income big losses would be unbelievably painful.
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#86
10-14-2005, 07:38 PM
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Re: How did you get where you current are?
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I quit my odd going nowhere job and took my beat up car to Toronto where there was a myriad of local club games to chose from. I was alone, for the first time in my entire life. [/ QUOTE ] Firstly, thank you very much for your response. It was great reading. However, I have a question here... All the clubs that I've heard about in Toronto have horrible rake... enough that they may even kill the game in the long term. How did you manage to survive doing this? Did you find decent clubs with awesome games? Did you find clubs with decent rake? Did you just run super-hot? Also, did you do anything to instigate those thugs towards fighting you, or was it just that they were pissed about losing money? --Dave. Edit: This story sounds incredible, in the literal sense of the word, but it IS possible. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'm also curious about where/if you showered, etc, when you were living in your car...
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#87
10-14-2005, 08:42 PM
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Re: How did you get where you current are?
I started dropping by Lucky Chances for dinner and a beer on the way home since my wife was 1.5 hours behind me commute-wise. Played $3-6 one night while waiting for $2-4 holdem, flopped a set and put in a couple bets but then wimped out. I have never since felt that kind of stress over money on the table: $3-6 was my max. Won, started playing $6-12, mostly by feel. My success involves a tournament, but I didn't win it. Busted out fifth and got nothing. However, I sat next to Tommy Angelo for three hours and three tables. We got to know each other, he took 20% of me into $20-40, got my head a little righter about the game, and I won a ton of money for live play in $20-40, $15-30 and $40-80 when it ran.
Then one night I sat down with Alex in the no limit game at Lucky Chances. Afterwards Alex called me another soon-to-be-ex-limit player. Two days later I was playing $10-10-20 $40 to go at Lucky Chances. Got my ass kicked repeatedly. Got better. Five years pass.
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#88
10-14-2005, 09:15 PM
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Re: How did you get where you current are?
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[ QUOTE ] well i think it helps that i dont play for a living and losing 1/3 of my roll over a few days isn't hugely detrimental to me. [/ QUOTE ] ahh, the bruiser school of thought. if you could only run as good as he! [/ QUOTE ] lol so you haven't heard the stories?
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#89
10-14-2005, 09:32 PM
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This is kinda funny cause I'm extemely drunk right now. I honestly don't talk about how I got into poker much but I guess when you've had a few drinks it doesn't matter much. I worked a LOT of odd jobs. I worked at a grocery store nightshift stocking shelves, as a security guard at creepy hotels, as a blackjack/baccarat dealer at a casino. None of those seemed to feel right. I always felt different amongst the crowd of employees. My thinking has always been very outside the box. When I discovered the world of poker in about 1999 I emersed myself in it. I really enjoyed the complexity of the game and felt it to be kind of like a chess game with a social atmosphere. I continued to work and play every few nights in house games, usually around 5-10 limit. I did quite well. I made notes on players and on my progress, feeling very content not just financially but emotionally. My paychecks would become a fuel for me to ignite my pashion for the game. Eventually I realized that working in a regular job was not for me. It was around this time that I was diagnosed with manic depression. My ups and downs were quite ridiculous. I jockied from medication to medication hoping desperately that I would find the right one to aleviate my insanity. I would take time off work to play poker and -EV table games such as blackjack and baccarat. I blew paycheck after paycheck after paycheck. I would say that within a years time I could probably buy a porsche with what I spent gambling. Only one game stood out from the others in terms of mental satisfaction and profitability...poker. Eventually I quit those horrendously unprofitable house edge games and realized that if I really put my mind to work and focussed on getting better, I could maybe make a living in poker. When I first told my parents, "I'de really like to attempt to make some kind of living playing this game." they looked at me with strange eyes. I felt like an outcast, like I had put a spell of shame upon them. I quit my odd going nowhere job and took my beat up car to Toronto where there was a myriad of local club games to chose from. I was alone, for the first time in my entire life. The first night was filled with fear. I only had a couple thousand with me and the game was full of mean ugly street thugs who cared not about me or my needs or aspirations. From this day forward I would come in here at 7pm and play til dawn playing tight unimaginative poker. I would sleep in my car for 7 months straight, reading The Theory Of Poker and Hold 'em Poker For Advanced Players under flashlight. Man it was cold and lonely. Only my thirst for knowledge and profits kept me going. I still look back and laugh at the most insane night ever when I hit a HOT run playing 10-20 and won 3700 in about 3 hours. I was followed out to my car by two angry players and had to thwart them off using my boot knife(very very scary and adrenaline pumping to the max). I worked my meager bankroll up to enough to finally rent a room in a house outside of Toronto. It really wasn't much, but a far cry better than the back seat of my 88' Cavalier. I got a cheapo computer and dabbled a little with online poker. At first I thought, 'What a scam! This can't be legit!' I blasted through a good portion of my roll in some games on paradise and ub. One night after surfing through some porn I noticed an banner for a poker site that need Props. Hmmm this could be interesting. I won't go into extreme detail of the sites I have propped for but to cut a long story short, I was evenutally staked by the manager of the prop program. He gave me 1k to play with and I got half profits and prop pay for my efforts for three months. Not bad seeing as I was near broke. I worked HARD. Played alllllll night and slept allllll day. After three months I had turned that 1k into about 21k playing 3-6 and 5-10. I got half of that and went out on my own. From 0 dollars I have worked it into buying a condo, a new car and a healthy bankroll for mid/high limits. I DO NOT take any of this for granted nor should anyone in a similar situation. Kind of a rags to riches story(though not quite rich, lol). I found the right medication that keeps me balanced and happy and mentally sound. It had been a very rough road to travel. With all of this came sacrifices, such as a real social life and acquiring knowledge of the world around me. Do I have any regrets? No. Would I do it all over again? Of course. I don't answer to anyone. I am my own boss. I am my own master. The knowledge that I have gained within a few short years is worth a lifetime of laboring punching clocks with the commoners. We are all worm-feed from birth, why not take some chances before we are put to rest? Thanks for reading. [/ QUOTE ] Would like to hear more please. When I worked as a dealer here in Toronto, I heard a lot of these stories of people who tried to make a living off poker. This of course was way before it went online.
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#90
10-14-2005, 10:35 PM
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Re: How did you get where you current are?
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Then one night I sat down with Alex in the no limit game at Lucky Chances. Afterwards Alex called me another soon-to-be-ex-limit player. [/ QUOTE ] LOL! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I like it. [ QUOTE ] Two days later I was playing $10-10-20 $40 to go at Lucky Chances. [/ QUOTE ] Could you please let me know more about this structure? Is it a $10/$20 blinds NLHE game with a $10 ante? Where does the $40 come in?
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