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Old 10-29-2007, 08:52 PM
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The original plan (a few years ago) was to have a poker room at both locations. They also thought the current room would have taken all of the high limit action in town so a change of plans would seem likely.

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Your version of the origional plan makes no sense, why would they have 2 poker rooms?


The origional plan as per my meeting with Wynn VP of Marketing 2 years ago was to place the new poker room in the middle of the pit, in a pool like indentation on the floor so you can look down on the games, surrounded by table card games. I was told this in the first three months or so of operation at Wynn if I remember correctly, it was during the same meeting that I learned that Wynn was planning a third theater for Spamalot which was originally going to postpone Encore development to reallocate resources - but that was canceled since Avenue Q closed.

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I'm pretty sure I would have a better understanding of what their original plans were.

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Mike - Denise Randazzo, VP of Advertising and according to countless blogs when you google her the "official spokeswoman" of Wynn was formerly at Ian Shrager's Morgans Group, I first met her 6 or so years ago because I did a lot of business with Schrager. Denise brought me in for a long meeting to discuss the future plans of Wynn as well as business partnership ideas (my company was originally approached to operate a restaurant at Wynn) and we went into detail about the poker room plans as well. Its possible that the plans shared with you were not the vision that company spokeswoman was projecting, weren't you only there for 3 months before flying off? By the time I came in for a meeting I think you had stopped working there.

BUT if you take my experience and your experience and combine them together we can find a common thread. I was told there would be a new room because the original room was designed and planned before the poker boom - it was almost as if it was an afterthought, and by this time the Daniel partnership was already falling a bit flat on its face. Was the second room discussed as part of the Daniel deal to encourage additional high-limit business that he wanted to bring in but wasn't capable of providing? By the time I met with Denise I think it was clear a lot of the Daniel ideas had failed.

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I knew Denise well, she had lots of grand ideas.
The original plan (pre-opening of Wynn) was to open another poker room in Encore. They were literally thinking of it as though they would compete against each other. i.e. two separate properties.
Like I said, they also thought the current poker room would only have nose bleed games, so the line of thinking may well have changed post opening.
I was there for a year (9 months pre opening), only to open the poker room. After it was open for 3 months i left.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:16 PM
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Yeah, Palazzo will have underground parking right below the hotel itself leading directly into the casino, unlike the cluster f'up that is the venetians current parking setup.

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Wow... I thought parking under the casino/hotel was something we'd never see again post 9/11. Ain't that about when and why Bellagio closed their garage off of Flamingo?
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:20 PM
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Mike - I had associate who were involved in Los Ramblas, their vision was high limit players only as well, a casino with a dress code. I think you know what happened to that project. There isnt a high-limit only poker room in the world because high limit players want to be near action too - low limit players help add to the excitement in the room.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:24 AM
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Will there be fish in the lake?
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:35 PM
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Yeah, Palazzo will have underground parking right below the hotel itself leading directly into the casino, unlike the cluster f'up that is the venetians current parking setup.

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Wow... I thought parking under the casino/hotel was something we'd never see again post 9/11. Ain't that about when and why Bellagio closed their garage off of Flamingo?

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The Cosmopolitan will have the same design, where all parking will be underneath the actual resort due to limited space.

I didn't realize Bellagio allowed self park in the North entrance prior to 9/11.

"Visitors of the Palazzo (using the massive 4,000-space underground parking garage) will take elevators or escalators from the garage directly to the center of the property's casino. That's a far cry from the meandering maze one must endure from the Venetian parking to its casino."
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:27 AM
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Why would 9/11 affect use of an underground parking garage? Terrorists flew airplanes into skyscrapers. The parallel would be to disallow parking on the 40th floor.

The World Trade Center garage bombing was in 1993.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:14 PM
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Why would 9/11 affect use of an underground parking garage? Terrorists flew airplanes into skyscrapers.

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OH for crissake! Would you PLEASE not try to use logic and rational thought on anything related to terrorism? The only acceptable thing to do post 9/11 was to run around screaming and flapping your arms. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But lots and lots of things changed post 9/11 to tighten security in non-commercial-aviation-related areas. I'm not sure when or why Bellagio closed their underground garage to the public. Just thought it was about the same time, and I've seen other folks claim on 2+2 it was because of terrorism concerns. I never thought to question it.
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:53 PM
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Why would 9/11 affect use of an underground parking garage? Terrorists flew airplanes into skyscrapers. The parallel would be to disallow parking on the 40th floor.

The World Trade Center garage bombing was in 1993.

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wow
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:02 PM
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Why would 9/11 affect use of an underground parking garage? Terrorists flew airplanes into skyscrapers.

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OH for crissake! Would you PLEASE not try to use logic and rational thought on anything related to terrorism? The only acceptable thing to do post 9/11 was to run around screaming and flapping your arms. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But lots and lots of things changed post 9/11 to tighten security in non-commercial-aviation-related areas. I'm not sure when or why Bellagio closed their underground garage to the public. Just thought it was about the same time, and I've seen other folks claim on 2+2 it was because of terrorism concerns. I never thought to question it.

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Maybe they're hiding Bin Laden down there.
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Old 11-01-2007, 09:10 PM
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They never found him in my trunk when they've made me open it.
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