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Old 07-28-2006, 12:01 PM
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Default Learn from my mistakes part 2

This was an idea aj did about a couple of weeks ago. I thought this was a great idea. Everyone posted hands they screwed up, and there were a LOT of great screw ups, many of this interesting and illuminating.

However, there was one problem. It seemed everyone just wanted to post their own hands, and not have as much discussion about the nature of other people's mistakes.

So, I hope aj doesn't mind (and if he does [censored] him [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]), but I'm taking the liberty of recreating this thread with some important adjustments.

The initial rules of this thread will be the same as aj's (this is copied from his original post):

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Requirements for posting hands in this thread:

1. Hero knows he played the hand poorly and explains why.
2. HERO MUST LOSE AT LEAST <font color="red">50bb's. </font>
3. Post only converted hands and remember to post results.

4. Please take results out of white.


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In the interest of fostering meaningful discussion I am adding two more rules.

5. Before you post one hand you must comment meaningfully on the mistakes of another player. You must say what you think they did wrong AND why you think this. Also, you must say what you think Hero SHOULD have done.
6. If you want to post more than one hand, you have to comment on more than one hand. E.g. If you post two hands in this thread, you should have commented on at least two other hands.
7. You may only post one hand at a time in a single post.


The rest of aj's rules stand:

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Do not post bad beats. No set over set. No AA vs set on a safe board. No getting sucked out on. Sometimes losing a big pot is inevitable. Only post hands where you fundamentally played the hand poorly. No results orientated thinking allowed.

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You are free to post your own thoughts on the hand, but the point of this is to allow others to critique your mistakes.

Okay, I will start. (I will comment on a hand later to make up for my immidiate deficit.) I played this last night and it is haunting me.

Villian here seemed to me to be somewhat selective, but not good. I had just stolen his UTG raise the very last hand with the excact same two cards (yes, I was dealt red AK twice in a row -- RIGGED!). His stats were something like 30/10/0.5 over not enough hands. I have this suspision that he is thinking I'm trying to bully him around. Given that, you can see how dumb this play is.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Greg is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Greg raises to $1</font>, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Greg bets $1.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Greg raises all-in $27.45</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB thinks for a while and the calls all-in $16.7</font>.
Uncalled bets: $7.25 returned to Greg.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($49.65, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $42.4, Sidepot 1: $7.25)


River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($49.65, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $42.4, Sidepot 1: $7.25)


Results:
Final pot: $49.65

Villian had A4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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