Weird PLO river spot w/ two pair + naked ace.

LearnedfromTV · #1 07-18-2007, 11:43 PM

Relevant stacks: SB $2900, I cover by a couple hundred. No read other than that he seems mediocre.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Blinds 25/50

UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop ($200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $200, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($600) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $600, SB calls.

River ($1800) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $300,

He has 1800 left. Folding seems disgusting, yet I'm very likely beat. Just call or bluff shove?

djk123 · #2 07-18-2007, 11:52 PM

Bluffing the naked A in Omaha is so fun. Not sure if this is the best guy to do it against, but that bet is just so weak, and I don't think we have a whole lotta showdown value

nath · #3 07-19-2007, 12:59 AM

bluff shove

Cornell Fiji · #4 07-19-2007, 02:11 AM

Yea, I bluff shove too because he seems mediocre and this might actually be an attempt at a blocking bet and not an inducement.

He is folding anything that he was truly blocking with (QT/babyflush/poorly played set) at least 70-80% of the time. His hand looks a lot like a poorly played TJQx to me (assuming a lowish buyin)

LearnedfromTV · #5 07-19-2007, 02:42 AM

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$109

MLG · #6 07-19-2007, 09:02 AM

bluff shoving in online omaha tournies is a bad bad idea IME. Generally speaking (and maybe its changed I havent played a non ftops/wcoop plo tourney in a while) but there are just so so so many hold 'em players who have no idea how to properly value a hand, and will make the classic bad play of bet calling. I mean think about it, there's very few draw a good player should have anyway after the turn, i mean maybe like AQT9cc or something.

meh i fold i think no matter how gross it feels.

djk123 · #7 07-19-2007, 09:11 AM

The more I think about the more I like a shove on this river against a bad player rather than a good player. I mean isn't a good player only doing this to induce a bluff? It's just too obvious of a blocking bet.

registrar · #8 07-19-2007, 09:17 AM

I like a bluff shove here. He's rivered a straight and I think he'll fold it often enough if you have a reasonable image.

Cornell Fiji · #9 08-01-2007, 02:46 PM

bump

dogsballs · #10 08-01-2007, 03:48 PM

Shove. Smells like has to be a TJQK type hand, esp since you have the Ac. Less likely to be a set. He'd havta be pretty bad to draw to the non-nut flush without also a wrap. Would help immensely to know how likely he might pay off w the 2nd or 3rd nut flush. \Eh, push anyway.