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Old 11-28-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)

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I play around 30 hours per week, and probably win 2 pots an hour. That works out to 30 weeks of not tipping. Maybe 25 since sometimes I tip more than a dollar. As a professional poker player, EVERY mistake I make costs me money.

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You play this much and a very common mistake gets you upset? By chance do you have a second job and not keep actual records of if you win or lose?
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:48 PM
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Yeah. Sorry the dealer cost you exactly nothing. No more so than misdealing an pocket aces before any action. I play at MCC often and while the dealers are not all wonderful, they are better than G-town and at least as good as CW.

I can't imagine that an experienced player would confuse the Derler costing him a pot instead of pure chance.

Get over it.

Tip the dealers - it is good karma.
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:04 PM
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Twelve minutes
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:17 PM
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I have seen this happen many times, and it has both cost me pots and won me pots. It is certainly the fairest way for the error to be fixed. I understand it can help as easily as it can hurt. But it is still irritating when it occurs - win, lose or draw.

If it is a good dealer that just made a bonehead mistake, ok, it happens. If, however, it is a dealer that NEVER follows the simple procedure of tapping the felt a few times before burning and dealing a card and/or doesn't pay attention to the game or is careless, then it is unacceptable. This is the type of thing regular players learn to put up with, but it can cause a casual player to never return.

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Old 11-28-2007, 07:27 PM
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Dealer cost you 0$. And you are not a pro, really, you are a degenerate who think he has a clue.
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)

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Perhaps I'm being childish

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yes, i agree.

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Exactly what I was going to say.
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)

It doesn't really matter, but I want a clarification:

Did the card that was exposed cause the player to make a different decision losing you the pot, or was it a suck out card that would have made you win at showdown?
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)

Stiffing the dealer makes about as much sense as lying awake at night contemplating the huge sums you’ve lost by not winning those hands that were re-dealt prior to the flop because of a misdeal. If your room allowed rabbit hunting, you’d be a basket case.

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As a professional poker player, EVERY mistake I make costs me money.

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not so
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)

This is not the player's fault, it isn't even the dealer's fault, it's the Casino's - and I for one am tired of it.
This all comes down to casino's being greedy bastards and not A.) paying dealers enough money to pay attention and B.) the casino's putting in unqualified and untrained dealers to save the money it costs of properly training a dealer.

In regards to not tipping for 36 weeks or whatever, that's just plain retarded. Why would you try and punish other dealer's for one dealer's mistake?
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)

Here's a story about how a dealer actually cost me $200:

I make a flush on a board of 2d3c5d4sTd. The pot is $100 I'm OTB and shove for $200. Guy across the table thinks for a while and finally says "call" but he moves his cards forward slightly (there was another player left to act). Within a second the dealer has his cards in the muck. The guy explains that he had a 6, he said call, blah, blah, blah. He is pissed and starts going off on the dealer. Not only did I tip him, but I showed my the other player my flush.

As a poker professional you should understand that things like this happen. If you can't stand dealer errors try playing online.
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