Stars 100r TT post flop spot

Bond18 · #1 08-07-2007, 03:25 PM

Villain is unknown to me, this is not long after the add on. I've been fairly tight.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG (t4875)
UTG+1 (t15425)
MP1 (t9700)
MP2 (t4205)
Hero (t9390)
CO (t1405)
Button (t3985)
SB (t12015)
BB (t10000)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises to t450, 2 folds, SB raises to t1200, 1 fold, Hero calls t750.

Flop: (t2550) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t1500, Hero calls t1500.

Turn: (t5550) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero?

God i feel rusty here. Is that correct flop play? Additional thoughts?

People_Mover · #2 08-07-2007, 03:36 PM

you have a little over a pot sized bet left. I think i stick it in and hope to get called by A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Kx then again, if he had this hand, he might have just shoved the turn. I dunno.

djk123 · #3 08-07-2007, 03:44 PM

Anyone else like a preflop shove? That's what I would do.

If I flatted pre, I would shove this flop. I don't think SB is ever folding 88/99 considering there is a flush draw, and he might even call with AK/AQ.

Given you just called flop, I think I shove turn lol. I'm pretty sure we have the best hand and there's a lot of chips in the pot. He also might decided to call with Ahx.

Bond18 · #4 08-07-2007, 04:14 PM

I agree with as played, turn is a shove. Not sure i agree with you about pre flop djk, theres no antes and he's 3 betting less than 3x OOP i think it often means he shows up with a big hand.

Bakes · #5 08-07-2007, 07:54 PM

preflop shove is gross. shoving flop is also gross. i think your range is far to wide for him, unknowns don't 3bet these that often. I think your probably good but is he ever going to call you with a worse hand? I think you should probably check, he could easily have a black overpair here that isn't folding to your turn shove, or even a red overpair thats trapping. check turn evaluate river.

djk123 · #6 08-07-2007, 08:34 PM

maybe ppl 3 bet me more idk. but on flop arent u gunna raise your flush draws? Might as well raise your real hands too.

Bakes · #7 08-07-2007, 08:36 PM

umm thats a bad way to look at it. big flush draws have way more equity against his calling range than TT does here.

djk123 · #8 08-07-2007, 08:39 PM

but im saying if he thinks we would make a move on the flop with a flush draw, he's more likely to call us with 88/99

Bakes · #9 08-07-2007, 08:46 PM

If he's in there with 88/99 (i think an unlikely possibility because of stacks, the fact he's an unknown) then if he's thinking enough to put us on a flush draw, he should actually probably fold because our range here to shove the flop is usually 99+ and bigger flush draws. pimped by the bigger pairs, flipping with the flush draws does not equal good equity for him with 88-99, although it might be close (I haven't done any math).

djk123 · #10 08-07-2007, 08:59 PM

Yea true, but you can't justify him not reraising 99/pre cuz hes an unknown and then give him credit for all that thinking on the flop.