99 vrs a DONKEY

fees · #1 08-01-2007, 11:46 PM

Readless but obviously his line makes him a donk... I'm probably not folding unless a 7 comes (this isnt a FD or soemthing enough and im just whatever if he has the 56... also I'd do this with AKcc sometimes) Uh I thought i hadbest hand ALOT of the time on the flop and that 3betting is like giving himi a free pass.. I called with the intention of leading the turn.. I didnt wanna give afree card, i WOULD crai if he was gonna bet but i wasn't 100% sure he would

Thoughts?

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saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($243.15)
Button ($284.30)
SB ($190)
Hero ($246)
UTG ($223)
MP ($206)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button calls $2, SB completes, Hero raises to $12, Button calls $10, SB folds.

Flop: ($26) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $18, Button raises to $36, Hero calls $18.

Turn: ($98) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $66

dregal · #2 08-01-2007, 11:54 PM

I think its ok as long as you are folding to a turn raise.

fees · #3 08-01-2007, 11:56 PM

god no why would i fold to a turn raise

Acaccini · #4 08-01-2007, 11:57 PM

i dont like the cold call on his raise preflop, his raise isnt going to fold any draws, with such a draw heavy board, IF i played in a few hands with him and got a better read, i would shove flop. i cant see him min. raising a set, clearly nobody is going to fold with any kind of drawy hand. it would help if you had a read on him with his 3 better range and opening/calling range, if you saw a few showdowns. if he comes over the top on your turn, i would fold.

the best line would be to 3 bet him on the flop and shut down if he pushes, if he cold calls check turn, if he is drawing to a club i cannot see him doing anything but 2 options, checking behind or shoving turn as a "donkish move", which ive seen alot from 1/2.

Acaccini · #5 08-01-2007, 11:58 PM

either that or he has some scared jacks....

fees · #6 08-01-2007, 11:59 PM

3betting the flop and shutting down to a push makes me want to cry.

Sly_Fox · #7 08-02-2007, 12:02 AM

What are you doing on a AKQ club river if he calls?

BTW, I like the turn lead instead of 3betting flop

Acaccini · #8 08-02-2007, 12:05 AM

leading turn is going to burn money.....your only getting called by hands that have you very crippled, 3 betting flop will make your choice alot easier then if he cold calls turn.....whats your river option?

dregal · #9 08-02-2007, 12:06 AM

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b/c I dont think he shoves with worse? You say you are basically readless, but from his pf play (limp/calling the button) he seems more on the passive side rather than aggro.

I think sets/2pr/combo draws/56 make up a HUGE part of his turn raising range and our equity sucks vs that range.

Acaccini · #10 08-02-2007, 12:07 AM

by leading turn he knows exactly where you are in the hand and you have make a 50% chance of an idea of where he is, gives your hand away, your not calling a min raise with a set, he will try and get value from your hand with any of his made draws....unless he is doing this with complete air trying to float.