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Old 07-24-2007, 11:48 PM
scott111 scott111 is offline
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Default overpair fold ok?

Button is 63/26/3.57 after 25 hands.

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9, 9.
2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 4, 3, 3 (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB calls, MP1 folds, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (12 BB) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 14 BB
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: overpair fold ok?

call the river
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: overpair fold ok?

i'd bet the river.
given that you checked, i call it.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: overpair fold ok?

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call the river

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Old 07-25-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: overpair fold ok?

why did you check the river?

why did you fold the river? do you know what those numbers that you posted mean?
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: overpair fold ok?

1. c/c
2. this is T4o only 11 times out of 14
3. !!!!!!
4. profit
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: overpair fold ok?

I assumed they meant that he could still have any 2. I'm not standing by my move but with a double-paired flop he could have a 3 or a 4..
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: overpair fold ok?

Actually since you asked can we confirm this? I'm a newish user of poker ace hud.

Top left 63 - means 63% of flops seen by this guy, should be 17?

Top right 26 - means he raises 26% of the flops, ridiculous since he should even play that many flops. What should this be?

bottom left 3.57 - agression factor, not sure what this should be but this is high. What is correct for TAG?


I agree I should bet river, but with the overcall there is one more guy that could have a 3 or 4...
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: overpair fold ok?

understanding AF takes some experience, but review the FAQ to answer your question about a TAG's AF.

do you really think that guy who called the river has a 4? even the love child of janethehot and unterfish knows to raise the river with zomg a full house.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: overpair fold ok?

These are mainiacal stats, he will probably bet everything when checked to because... its funner to bet than to whatever.

Since you bet the turn and he called, he is unlikely to have a very strong hand, Vil could very well be on a draw, but when you are checking the river you are inducing a bluff very often. Betting the river will put you in a tight spot if you are raised and you really don't want to fold to a guy like this.

Therefore I prefer to c/c since that will allow you to showdown for 1 when you are behind and might gain you 1 if you induce a bluff. (if you bet and get raised you are usually paying two to find out that you got owned. Tho this is not nessesarily true against tough opponents that may bluff raise the scare card if you are known to b/f (N/A here though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

You will find standard stats in the FAQ, but basically if the numbers were 15/6/0.5 you would be b/f this all day.
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