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#31
10-01-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?
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I kind of resent casino's trying to reign in aggressive players who are playing within the rules. [/ QUOTE ] Thats fine, but it is against the rules in my room for you to use profane language, berate other players. agree players shouldn't be penalized for minor infractions of general ettiquette (though for the life of me I don't understand why so many people can't say please and thank you to the cocktail waitress). But the idea that anything goes at the poker table is not acceptable. The idea that we can't regulate condict in order to make the room a better place for all players (not just the ones who aren't offended by profanity) makes no sense to me. 
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#32
10-01-2007, 08:05 PM
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Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?
I never understood why so many people act like a poker room is a free-for-all where they can do or say whatever they want. There aren't children present so it's not like you have to act like you're in church or something.
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#33
10-01-2007, 09:39 PM
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Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?
I only have one rule in my home games and it's this:
#1: Don't be an a-hole. Really, it's not that difficult a concept. Trust me, the reserved quiet people with money and the loud fun boistrous but generally agreeable action junkies with money far far FAR outnumber the jerks with money, who tend to slow things down enough to make their dollars worth half as much as anybody else. Don't be an a-hole, it's a good rule for life.
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#34
10-01-2007, 11:15 PM
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Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?
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I get tired of people pretending poker is a gentleman's game. Tired of people talking about so called morals at a poker table. Everyone at the table is either ruthless and calculating, or trying their best to be ruthless and calculating. It's dog eat dog. I wanna take the last of your mortgage payments. I want your children to not eat properly this week. [/ QUOTE ] If your opponents can't make their mortgage payments and feed their kids, how on earth do you expect them to keep coming back and donating to your game in the future? q/q
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#35
10-01-2007, 11:33 PM
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Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?
With all the money in the pot you need 23% equity to make the call. If the button has AdJd you have 30.5% equity which means calling is profitable for you. So, the only hand you should fold against is a set of Kings. Nothing you do will convince you he has a set of Kings, except possibly him showing you a set of Kings.
You are holding up the game when there is really no chance you will fold. Those who recognize there is no way you'll fold will be annoyed with you. The other two players will feel like they are being slow rolled. Please save the theatrics for occasions when it might influence your decision. Thank You.
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#37
10-02-2007, 06:02 AM
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Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?
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I get tired of people pretending poker is a gentleman's game. Tired of people talking about so called morals at a poker table. Everyone at the table is either ruthless and calculating, or trying their best to be ruthless and calculating. It's dog eat dog. I wanna take the last of your mortgage payments. I want your children to not eat properly this week. [/ QUOTE ] OK. You seem to be a pretty angry guy. But if you really feel this way, why don't you just hold them up in the parking lot? Or are you going to tell me you would if it wasn't for the risk of getting caught?
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#38
10-02-2007, 06:28 AM
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Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?
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[ QUOTE ] I get tired of people pretending poker is a gentleman's game. Tired of people talking about so called morals at a poker table. Everyone at the table is either ruthless and calculating, or trying their best to be ruthless and calculating. It's dog eat dog. I wanna take the last of your mortgage payments. I want your children to not eat properly this week. [/ QUOTE ] OK. You seem to be a pretty angry guy. But if you really feel this way, why don't you just hold them up in the parking lot? Or are you going to tell me you would if it wasn't for the risk of getting caught? [/ QUOTE ] I'm actually with the guy that says he wants to take all their money. If the money is on the table, even if it's your grandma's medicine money, you should be trying to check-raise her out of it. It's fine to be polite to your opponents, but really you need to think of them as the enemy, and do whatever you can within the rules to get the money.
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#39
10-02-2007, 06:55 AM
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Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?
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I'm actually with the guy that says he wants to take all their money. If the money is on the table, even if it's your grandma's medicine money, you should be trying to check-raise her out of it. It's fine to be polite to your opponents, but really you need to think of them as the enemy, and do whatever you can within the rules to get the money. [/ QUOTE ] What's so hard for people to get about this issue? I'm not advocating soft-playing anyone. My point is simply that you can play as aggressively as you like within the rules and spirit of the game, but that you shouldn't allow this to blur the line between the game of poker and the general business of being a person. "Don't be an a-hole" is an excellent summary indeed.
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#40
10-02-2007, 07:35 AM
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Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?
Obviously if you're asking him if it's within the rules in the first place, YOU dont think it's bad etiquette. Is he trying to tell us that others at the table think it's bad etiquette, or that he would personally be offended by it? Is there any particular reason why we should care what he thinks is bad etiquette?
Well who the [censored] cares. Ive played with people who think check/raising is bad etiquette. Ive played with people who think raising preflop without a good hand is bad etiquette. Ive seen dealers who think it's bad etiquette to tip only $1 or $2 on a big hand. Thank god I'm not obligated to make nice-nice with these retards. Ill be polite to them, but being polite doesnt come out of my pocket. But if they expect me to sacrifice my own money just to satisfy some weird sense of ethics that they invented in their heads, it sure as [censored] isnt happening. The whole reason we define and write down rules is to prevent subjective interpretation of what one should or should not do.
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