Why does it matter if Hitler was atheist/Christian...??

[WiiiiiiMan]

Spin Spin Spin, what this forum is best for.

[WiiiiiiMan]

It's like trying tell someone who for sure thinks those puffy white things in the sky are marshmallows are really called clouds.

40 Years Later, still thinks they're marshmallows

[Hopey]

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Plus I'd question you on that 50 Million number. Think more like 11 to 12 million at most. But who gives a [censored] about 30 to 35 Million people right. Let's just make up big sexy numbers.

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You're disputing that 50 million people died in WWII? Are you really this ignorant? Or are you just trolling?

[ZeeJustin]

First of all, I agree with everything Kurto just said.

Secondly, LOL @:

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I'd question you on that 50 Million number. Think more like 11 to 12 million at most.

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Know your facts and quit making up stuff to fit your warped ideology.

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Seriously. You could have googled it first before making yourself look like an ass.

Wiki Entry on Death Tolls shows the LOWEST estimate at 40mil, and the highest at 71.

[ZeeJustin]

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So Zee, your point being that God is a negative on the world?

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This is actually a thoughtful question, so I'll take the time to answer it.

My personal belief is of course that there is no God, and it's a very strong belief to put it mildly.

I think the idea of God helped society a great deal, especially in the first millennium.

Last century, however, things changed, and the idea of God has become extremely destructive to our modern society.

My favorite example of this is the whole premarital sex thing. This was a great rule before we had contraceptives, but now it just prevents people from experiencing the greatest feeling in the world.

Our society has advanced to the point where we have enough power to govern ourselves, and don't need an ill-founded set of morals. Furthermore, I think those morals are terrible. Have you ever read any of the old testament? Rules about when rape, slavery, and murder are not only ok, but mandatory.

Even forgetting those, here are some rules/beliefs that are still followed today:

No premarital sex.

Gays are bad.

If someone doesn't follow your beliefs, you should first try to convert them, and if you can't, then you must kill them (This is actually a surprisingly common Muslim belief)

Condoms don't prevent aids (Thanks to Pope John Paul II, this one was a MAJOR cause in leading to the spread of aids in Africa)

Furthermore, the entire foundation of faith in religion discourages truth, in this is becoming especially destructive in terms of scientific and medical advances. Not having evolution taught in every school across the world is just a complete joke.

I could go on, but I think I've summed up my beliefs enough.

I guess I should mention the idea of God also does a lot of good, but in the past 100 years, the scale has tilted HEAVILY in favor of the bad.

[Splendour]

Martin Bormann probably Hitler's closest confidante and secretary is suppose to have issued a secret memo that the Nazis intended to get rid of all churches.

An excerpt: http://www.thirdreich.net/Bormann_Bio.html

He reopened the fight against the Christian churches, declaring in a confidential memo to Gauleiters in 1942 that their power 'must absolutely and finally be broken'. Nazism, based as it was on a 'scientific' world-view, was completely incompatible with Christianity whose influence was regarded by Bormann as a serious obstacle to totalitarian rule.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...y/Bormann.html

Has this to say about Bormann:

He was a rabid fighter against the Christian churches, stating in a confidential 1942 memo that Nazism was incompatible with Christianity and the power of the churches "must absolutely and finally be broken."(5)

[WiiiiiiMan]

IMO, guys like Zeejustin are made up on this issue and many of other that relate. Kind of like a terrorist is made up on his. But at least Zee's ideology isnt gonna blow anyone up(for now).

No reasonable facts or truths, scientifically , etc can change his mind.

Sigh for unbias open mindedness to learn facts and truths.