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Old 09-27-2007, 02:01 AM
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there ya go Josem. a greenie.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:04 AM
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Even though AP was found to cheat..ie:rigged, Josem continues to ramble on about how op is not rigged.

Mental issues.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:06 AM
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Could you stop trolling for even a day?
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:51 PM
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Absolute Poker semi rogued at CM.

http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/n...nded/index.php
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:24 PM
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Oh, so you know a crime was committed, yet you refuse to report it.

Okay.

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I typically don't report crimes that take place 12,000km away from me, that don't involve me, and that has no connection to my local police force.

By contrast, if I knew of money being stolen here in Australia, I would report it. In addition, I still think it would be a good idea for people who did have money stolen from them to report it.

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so its important for you to put up a website about this but not report it to the authorities?

what a shill.
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:28 PM
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It looks like this issue is definitely being swept under the rug. Absolute is not going to issue a public statement, and the news mags aren't going to pick it up. It may as well have never happened, to 99.94% of the general public.

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Name: Mark Seif
9/16/2007 8:50:47 PM (PST)

hi russell,
i was just made aware of these serious allegations this morning while playing at the wpt event at the borgata, where i am presently. while i have not had a chance to investigate this matter, i can tell you and anyone else who believes or for whatever reason has stated that i am somehow involved in this matter, unequivocally, i do not now, nor have i ever, had the ability to see hole cards on any poker site i have ever played at including absolute poker.

i doubt my results would be what they are if i had the ability to see my opponents' hole cards. in fact, i am almost certainly the biggest all-time loser on the site and have been crushed in the big games for a long, very long time. if anything, i would very much like this matter thoroughly investigated so that we can all find out what has happened, and if appropriate, to take swift remedial action such as seizing funds and returning them to the players cheated, including myself, if in fact, ap's security protections have been compromised.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...r-issue-3.html

notice incidentally that he does not categorically deny benfitting from a possible breach of security he only states he does not have the ability to see hole cards.
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:28 PM
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so its important for you to put up a website about this but not report it to the authorities?

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stop being a moron. no australian authorities have any relevant jurisdiction here.
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:42 PM
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if the superusers are psychics how will we ever solve this
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:57 PM
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anyone want to rail on absolute with me? i'll download the software if there are any takers in the next 30 min or so.
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:57 PM
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My suggestion would be to emphasize the number of correct river decisions in a row in a limit game. For example, say there is a 75% chance that a player is ahead if you're betting on the river. Then, if he makes, for example, 50 out of 55 correct decisions in a row, then he's several standard deviations away from the norm.

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I just tried your idea. Since I couldn't come up with a way to calculate the standard deviaion I used a bootstrap technique drawing 10.000 samples. The mean is ofc 41.25 and the standard deviation was estimated at 3.22.

The odds of 50 out of 55 correct descisions was estimated at 288 to 1

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The evidence should be overwhelming in favour of this cheating

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These kind of assumptions are very common in this thread. I guess to few people bother to check the validity of these claims. The evidence is far from overwhelming.

However, I do think the model is too simple. All descisions don't have the same probability of beeing correct (how hard is it when you have the nut flush? or 23o that missed?). One thing to keep in mind also is that if this guy wasn't cheating he was running hot and part of running hot is having easy decisions.

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Okay, so we have a baseline. Can we find out how many hands of data that we can extrapolate from? For example, if he played 550 hands in a row like this (making 500 correct river decisions, with 75% chance), would the odds against that be about 3925770232266214525108224 to 1?

It's still a bit confusing over how many hands we have data showing that he almost always made the correct river decision and how often it was made.
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