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Old 10-18-2007, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: 50NL suitable spot for set-mining?

You have position, and by 3 betting you take control of the pot. You have a chance to take the pot away from TT-QQ if an ace or king hit and you c-bet. If you just call and the flop comes Q-8-5, what do you do with his c-bet? Do you automatically fold? Do you float it?
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: 50NL suitable spot for set-mining?

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You have position, and by 3 betting you take control of the pot. You have a chance to take the pot away from TT-QQ if an ace or king hit and you c-bet. If you just call and the flop comes Q-8-5, what do you do with his c-bet? Do you automatically fold? Do you float it?

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...and when he calls you down with JJ you can write in chat box:
"how could you call that bet with only JJ?!? Donk!!!"
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:40 AM
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Ah,but when he calls with JJ, and the fop comes K-x-x, we win!
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Old 10-18-2007, 04:01 AM
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also true...
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:41 AM
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Default Re: 50NL suitable spot for set-mining?

Thanks to everyone for the feedback - especially the following:

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call if less than 5% of effective stacks, fold if over 10%, and make a judgement call between 5% and 10%)

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that's a very good rule to determine to call or not. But isn't call justified when effective stack is only 8 times bigger cause you flop set in 13% of the time? [maybe my knowing of odds is oldschool or wrong, though, hah].

Sure, in that case we are left with no buffer to further reraises.

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This would only be true if we stack him every time we hit our set, which is nowhere close to true.

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I used to use the "I'll stack them if I hit" line but am getting more realistic in estimating implied odds. I like the 5/10 shortcut.
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:51 AM
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call that for set mining all day.
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