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Old 11-10-2007, 02:54 AM
oakrdrzfan oakrdrzfan is offline
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Default NL50: AA 3 way on scary flop board facing pot size AI and a call

Is pushing on this board after a pot size AI and a call too spewy? Is folding too weak? Short stacker is new to table, the caller is TAG. The SPR is right at the borderline for stacking off here i think

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $47.50
BB: $20
UTG: $58.15
UTG+1: $49.60
UTG+2: $61.50
MP1: $8.50
MP2: $7.50
CO: $12.35
Hero (BTN): $60.75

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $1</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.75</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4.25, UTG+1 calls $3.75, CO folds

Flop: ($15.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $15.25 and is All-In</font>, UTG+1 calls $15.25, Hero pushes, calls or folds?
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:30 AM
The Eureka Kid The Eureka Kid is offline
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Default Re: NL50: AA 3 way on scary flop board facing pot size AI and a call

This is a very tough spot, I'm leaning towards folding, but realising I'm going to be folding the best hand here some of the time. You haven't invested too much, this is a pretty bad flop, most of the time UTG+1 calls your shove he has you crushed. This is such a marginal spot I just fold and move on I think.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: NL50: AA 3 way on scary flop board facing pot size AI and a call

It stinks, but you should probably fold.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: NL50: AA 3 way on scary flop board facing pot size AI and a call

Probably fold I agree
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: NL50: AA 3 way on scary flop board facing pot size AI and a call

Really? You all folding it?

Maybe its leak but I would push.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: NL50: AA 3 way on scary flop board facing pot size AI and a call

I agree with ranka.
There are many more combinations of overpairs and draws that you beat than there are sets and 2-pairs.

Also remember you can win a side pot even if your beat by BB. UTG+1 may have QQ-99 and cant let it go.

I shove and ride some variance.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:53 AM
AllTheCheese AllTheCheese is offline
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Default Re: NL50: AA 3 way on scary flop board facing pot size AI and a call

Shove's fine. BB is clearly an idiot. There's nothing to stop TAG from having Queens or 77 here. It's close enough though where neither play deserves chastisement.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: NL50: AA 3 way on scary flop board facing pot size AI and a call

The two villains cold called a re-raise. This strongly suggests AK, QQ, JJ, TT, not straightening cards. The flush draw is possible, but even still IMHO this is a shove.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:35 PM
oakrdrzfan oakrdrzfan is offline
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Default Re: NL50: AA 3 way on scary flop board facing pot size AI and a call

I ended up pushing. Many of you were right on here with my analysis that TT-QQ and AK would play this way. One had TT and the other JJ. The small stack hit a gut shot for a straight and the big stack called. Luckily i won some money.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $47.50
BB: $20
UTG: $58.15
UTG+1: $49.60
UTG+2: $61.50
MP1: $8.50
MP2: $7.50
CO: $12.35
Hero (BTN): $60.75

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $1</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.75</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4.25, UTG+1 calls $3.75, CO folds

Flop: ($15.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $15.25 and is All-In</font>, UTG+1 calls $15.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $56 and is All-In</font>, UTG+1 calls $29.60 and is All-In

Turn: ($120.45) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($120.45) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $120.45 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a straight, Ten high) and WON $58.25 (+$38.25 NET)
UTG+1 showed J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-$49.60 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON $59.20 (+$9.60 NET)
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