why o why didnt I 4bet

[martijn]

Villain seems to be a good aggressive player so far.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $105.10
SB: $99
BB: $170.90
UTG: $355.20
Hero (MP): $126
CO: $50.55

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $12, CO folds

Flop: ($36.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $22</font>

[Precise_]

I can see arguments for pushing flop or calling flop and re-evaluating on safe turn.
I would just push flop here most of time, you have outs/redraws if behind and an underepped hand.

[Anycall]

if you get it in on this flop, you are not going to be in great shape at all. i think this really depends on the villain's 3bet range. i will prob tilt shove the flop to curse my luck but i think it's super close vs good and tight opponent.

[martijn]

looking for some more comments

[manupod]

I think the best thing to do is call, but you can really do all three options here.

[Insistent_]

A call is not a nice option here. He will almost certainly bet the turn again unless he is on a lower pocket pair like 88.
x He will bet as a semi-bluff
z He will bet to protect his hand with a worse hand than yours
x He will bet with a better hand to protect and cash in

In either case, whatever you do you will theoretically do the wrong thing against a large part of his hand distribution.

You have outs and you want to put the money in before the difficult situation. Stick it in!

I think a fold is better than a call because of the same type of reasoning.

[manupod]

[ QUOTE ]
A call is not a nice option here. He will almost certainly bet the turn again unless he is on a lower pocket pair like 88.
x He will bet as a semi-bluff
z He will bet to protect his hand with a worse hand than yours
x He will bet with a better hand to protect and cash in

In either case, whatever you do you will theoretically do the wrong thing against a large part of his hand distribution.

You have outs and you want to put the money in before the difficult situation. Stick it in!

I think a fold is better than a call because of the same type of reasoning.

[/ QUOTE ]

The more I think about it, call is the worst option. I was just so split on shove/fold that I landed in the middle on 'call' although that's not really an acceptable middle for this hand.

Basically anything BUT calling is good here [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Imrahil]

Fold. I'd 4bet pf because when people squeeze and you shove/4bet they will stack off lighter than a non squeeze.

[Unknown Soldier]

if villains good this is a fold

[bilbo-san]

If he 3bets a lot this is easy.

If he doesn't, still hard to see him lay down KK or AQ or KQ or 99, so...


Board: Js Th Qh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.973% 40.78% 03.19% 17763 1391.50 { 99+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 56.027% 52.83% 03.19% 23014 1391.50 { AdAh }