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Old 09-09-2007, 03:49 AM
luckychancer luckychancer is offline
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Default The myth of PS rakeback

So many on this forum appear to have a very strong and vested interest in pushing Pokerstars and putting down any and all competition. Especially FTP since it's the closest rival.
Is anyone else sick of hearing PS shills drone on about about PS actually having 30%+ RB?
It seems to me that PS employs several people to post on this forum in any way they can to push PS and criticise other sites.
Just to illustrate my point...

If an average person were to play 10k hands a month at PS how much RB would they get and how long would it take them to get it?
The preceeding question will no doubt be drowned out and left unanswered by the PS shills flaming the hell out of me for bringing this up in the 1st place.
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: The myth of PS rakeback

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The preceeding question will no doubt be drowned out and left unanswered by the PS shills flaming the hell out of me for bringing this up in the 1st place.

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Gogogogogo.

And to answer your two questions:

no
and $texas
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: The myth of PS rakeback

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Old 09-09-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: The myth of PS rakeback

OMG I'm so happy now! I woke up this morning thinking to myself that it's been at least a couple of days since we've had a PS vs FT RB thread...PLEASE let this be the day we have another one. Low and behold, my wish has been answered!

As to your comparison question, I'll go out on a limb and suggest it's likely been answered numerous times in the endless parade of threads on this tired subject. And in those threads, people might have actually been specific about things like the game & limits they play!

I've never understood the endless fascination with this subject. Do people really find a 5 or 10% difference in RB actually sways their decision in favour of one site or the other? Are people's preferences in software, customer service, quality of players, etc, etc not worth more than that?
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: The myth of PS rakeback

The myth is that other major sites return more to their players. Stars has one of the lowest rake structures. The FPP/VIP program costs us multiple million dollars every month. We have a great relationship with our customers and I believe this is the reason they defend us when someone posts something they believe to be untrue.

Scotty
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:20 AM
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and $texas

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i died laughing at this but i cant remember where its from.. remind me?
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:21 AM
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WAIT LOL i just died laughing .. SNL jeopardy?
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:08 AM
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: The myth of PS rakeback

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If an average person were to play 10k hands a month at PS how much RB would they get and how long would it take them to get it?


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Depends what stakes they play.

You can always do the calculation yourself if you care to know the answer.
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: The myth of PS rakeback

Nintendo Rulz!!! Xbox and PS3 SUX!!!!

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If an average person were to play 10k hands a month at PS how much RB would they get and how long would it take them to get it?

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If someone played 12,422 hands of $100NL a month, every month they would earn about 4000vpp per month. That would make them Gold Star.

They would then earn 8000fpp/month.

Their MGR would be about $771.75.

They would be able to buy a $285 bonus every 25,000VPP which is every 3.125 months.

This bonus would be cleared after 1,995fpp which would take them 6195 hands to clear.

This is the equivalent to 11.81% rakeback.

(Yes I did the math for 12K hands instead of 10k because it's not unreasonable that someone aware of the benefits of Gold Star would get in the extra hands when they're so close)


Of course at Stars ANYBODY can get this rakeback. Unlike FTP where if you didn't sign-up with the right affiliate you're [censored] out of luck.

For me FTP rakeback in a myth. I get 0% rakeback on FTP because I signed up directly through them shortly after they opened.

I'm a Supernova on Stars which means that at $100NL I get over 30% in rakeback.

The numbers speak for themselves. Even with rakeback at FTP, Stars would still be a better deal for me. Since I can't get rakeback at FTP it's no contest at all.
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