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thoughts on these hands
hand 1 is from the stars 50 rebuy, villain has been opening a lot of pots but not getting too crazy postflop. i popped him once with qq and he called and check/folded the flop.
i asked 3 good players about this hand and got 3 different answers so i thought it would be a good one to post. hands 2-4 are all early in the full tilt 50 freezeout, no reads. 1) PokerStars Game #13383461356: Tournament #67347697, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/11/21 - 17:32:47 (ET) Table '67347697 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: mortonator99 (13875 in chips) Seat 2: JOEYTHEB (41817 in chips) Seat 3: ukruss (7460 in chips) Seat 4: GRinDer444 (21765 in chips) Seat 5: nomoballer (8410 in chips) Seat 6: Mikael 666 (13491 in chips) Seat 7: Baakbone (34240 in chips) Seat 9: gboro780 (22480 in chips) mortonator99: posts the ante 50 JOEYTHEB: posts the ante 50 ukruss: posts the ante 50 GRinDer444: posts the ante 50 nomoballer: posts the ante 50 Mikael 666: posts the ante 50 Baakbone: posts the ante 50 gboro780: posts the ante 50 GRinDer444: posts small blind 300 nomoballer: posts big blind 600 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to gboro780 [Ah Qd] Mikael 666: folds Baakbone: raises 1200 to 1800 gboro780: 2) Full Tilt Poker Game #4250978861: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 28 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:13:15 ET - 2007/11/21 Seat 1: gboro780 (3,680) Seat 2: juanrichguy (7,205) Seat 3: deeman7 (3,260) Seat 4: redrumxxx (2,440) Seat 5: 515FahQ515 (5,495) Seat 6: iceman810 (1,335) Seat 7: Cre8ive (2,675) Seat 8: Big Plick (1,303) Seat 9: mikey11773 (3,475) deeman7 posts the small blind of 25 redrumxxx posts the big blind of 50 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to gboro780 [Kh Ac] 515FahQ515 calls 50 iceman810 raises to 250 Cre8ive has 15 seconds left to act Cre8ive calls 250 Big Plick folds mikey11773 folds gboro780: 3) Full Tilt Poker Game #4250748808: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 28 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:48:28 ET - 2007/11/21 Seat 1: gboro780 (2,025) Seat 2: the-xmen12 (2,260) Seat 3: deeman7 (1,970) Seat 4: redrumxxx (1,910) Seat 5: 515FahQ515 (3,505) Seat 6: iceman810 (1,660) Seat 7: Cre8ive (3,540) Seat 8: Bluf4fun (2,335) Seat 9: HoodyHooTay (2,045) redrumxxx posts the small blind of 15 515FahQ515 posts the big blind of 30 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to gboro780 [Tc Th] iceman810 folds Cre8ive has 15 seconds left to act Cre8ive folds Bluf4fun folds HoodyHooTay folds gboro780 raises to 90 the-xmen12 folds deeman7 folds redrumxxx calls 75 515FahQ515 folds *** FLOP *** [4c 4s 7d] redrumxxx checks gboro780 bets 140 redrumxxx raises to 630 gboro780: 4) Full Tilt Poker Game #4251952857: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 26 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:54:55 ET - 2007/11/21 Seat 1: NutZonLoCk (6,775) Seat 2: aaajack (7,257) Seat 3: bfunkadunk (19,090) Seat 4: gboro780 (15,594) Seat 5: S_Dot111 (11,551) Seat 7: Padlec87 (4,860) Seat 8: isejbin (8,817) Seat 9: sd_hang_10 (13,118) NutZonLoCk antes 25 aaajack antes 25 bfunkadunk antes 25 gboro780 antes 25 S_Dot111 antes 25 Padlec87 antes 25 isejbin antes 25 sd_hang_10 antes 25 aaajack posts the small blind of 120 bfunkadunk posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to gboro780 [Jc Qc] bfunkadunk has been disconnected bfunkadunk has reconnected gboro780 raises to 640 S_Dot111 folds Padlec87 folds isejbin folds sd_hang_10 folds NutZonLoCk folds ItzGoTime sits down ItzGoTime adds 3,652 aaajack folds bfunkadunk calls 400 *** FLOP *** [Ks Jd Kh] bfunkadunk has 15 seconds left to act bfunkadunk checks gboro780 checks *** TURN *** [Ks Jd Kh] [9s] bfunkadunk bets 240 gboro780 calls 240 *** RIVER *** [Ks Jd Kh 9s] [4d] bfunkadunk has 15 seconds left to act bfunkadunk bets 480 gboro780 has 15 seconds left to act gboro780 raises to 1,460 |
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Re: thoughts on these hands
1. call
2. raise 1050 3. allin 4. i probably just call the river; i think you could get JT to fold to the raise, but AJ wont. |
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Re: thoughts on these hands
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1. call 2. raise 1050 3. allin 4. i probably just call the river; i think you could get JT to fold to the raise, but AJ wont. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with all, you aren't gonna get called by a whole lot on the river of #4 that you beat, of course everything that beats you is calling. #1 I think anything but calling is pretty bad personally #2 gotta re-raise #3 This is a spot where if you're behind oh well, but you have to get the chips in now if you're ahead so shove because turns can bring all sorts of bad things |
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Re: thoughts on these hands
ur not worried about rejam w/ hand 2? would u call it?
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Re: thoughts on these hands
1 flat
2 allin 3 allin 4 call |
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Re: thoughts on these hands
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ur not worried about rejam w/ hand 2? would u call it? [/ QUOTE ] if any of the people that already put money into the pot jam i obv call. if someone cold 4 bet jams after all this action, i guess i could consider folding ... but still probably woudlnt. |
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Re: thoughts on these hands
1. Call
2. Call 3. Shove 4. Is river for value? |
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Re: thoughts on these hands
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4. i probably just call the river; i think you could get JT to fold to the raise, but AJ wont. [/ QUOTE ] WTF they are pretty much the exact same hand. BTW I think shoving hand 3 is a massive spew, call is way better. Folding might be better than shove. |
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Re: thoughts on these hands
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BTW I think shoving hand 3 is a massive spew, call is way better. Folding might be better than shove. [/ QUOTE ] Calling is not an option here. He's raising to 630 with 1300 or so behind which means he's shoving any turn and there's at least 4 cards you're not gonna want to see. Not sure if shoving is better than folding (though I lean towards shove vs. random and pray for 55-99) but I don't see how you can ever profitably flat call. 1. Fold, but calling seems fine as well 2. Raise/call 3. Shove 4. Call |
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