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Old 12-06-2006, 10:49 AM
yoyo yoyo is offline
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Default Help needed please - 5/10 QQ OOP vs. good player

This spot is fairly common but I've really been struggling with these lately by getting myself trapped by leading turn, so have decided to try the line taken below:
(sorry for HH format - tried a couple converters with no luck)

- CO $1002.29
- Button $2652.50
- SB $1344.68
- Hero $1462.00
- UTG $1015.00


** Dealing card to Hero: Qd, Qc
UTG raises to $35, 3 folds, Hero raises to - $144
UTG calls $109

Flop: 4h - 6c - 2d (Pot - $223)

Hero bets $131
UTG calls $131

Turn: Th (Pot: $485)

Hero checks
UTG checks

River: 9c (Pot: $485)

Hero bets $241
UTG raises all-in $775.00
Hero folded

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UTG is a solid, aggressive player.

Do the experts here agree that the line taken with checking the turn is superior to leading?

Any other comments on my weak-tight play in this hand?

What % of the time do you see yourself leading the turn as opposed to checking? Or is it totally player dependent? Is there a clear-cut standard line in these spots?

thx in advance for any help/comments
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:55 AM
Staycool Staycool is offline
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Default Re: Help needed please - 5/10 QQ OOP vs. good player

the hand is played fine, imo.

use the turn check versus opponents who are apt to bet when you show weakness. key here: how often is he defending his opens, and does he tighten up a lot utg? given the flop texture (low rainbow board) i read him for an overpair a lot of the time which means the turn and river are potentially trouble. i actually think a river check/call is worth considering, as he has to bet JJ i'd think. personally, i'm betting more on the river if choose to bet, but it's probably not too big a deal.

good luck
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:45 AM
Jinx Jinx is offline
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Default Re: Help needed please - 5/10 QQ OOP vs. good player

I'd check the river and either call or fold depending on how much he bets. history and reads matter so much for turn play, that's it's retarded to say either bet or check is better unless you give us more info on your and villain's image.

As played river is an easy fold.
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