Police kill Polish man @ Vancouver Airport

[KotOD]

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Everybody already has come up with the alternate suggestion, and it has been repeated more than once. It's exactly the suggestion any reasonable person would expect to come up, no matter what side you're on -- that the cops do a manual take-down if necessary.

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But only after the translator gives them the go ahead.

[Peter666]

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Everybody already has come up with the alternate suggestion, and it has been repeated more than once. It's exactly the suggestion any reasonable person would expect to come up, no matter what side you're on -- that the cops do a manual take-down if necessary.

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But only after the translator gives them the go ahead.

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This is silly. The guy was throwing computer equipment around. What is the translator going to find out? "Hello officers, let me greet you in the traditional Polish manner of smashing appliances."

[R*R]

In 10 hours he spent 15 seconds throwing 2 items. That's it. He was not throwing numerous items for a lengthy period. From what I understand he dumped a computer and threw a small table. That's it. And nothing was thrown at a person.

[KotOD]

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This is silly. The guy was throwing computer equipment around. What is the translator going to find out? "Hello officers, let me greet you in the traditional Polish manner of smashing appliances."

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He was detained for 10 hours after a 14 hour flight for no reason. None. So after being held in a room for 10 hours for doing nothing, not being able to communicate with anyone, with your elderly mother driving five hours to pick you up and knowing that she's looking for you, you get pissed and throw a monitor.

I would expect him to do MUCH worse.

[supafrey]

Just to add a couple small points...

1. When foreign/ESL people need to speak to bureacracy/government/police, they somehow manage. Canadian police services offer emergency care in something like 200 unique languages, and private companies offer over-the-phone translations for emergency situations such as this one. Anyone who has ever worked for the government is taught how to deal with people who are foreign/unresponsive.. this goes double for police services.

2. If any Russian person was brought to speak to this man, they'd have almost immediately been able to notice this dude was speaking Polish. Any Eastern Euro person could have helped this situation and it's disappointing airport security didn't think of this during the long wait that was obviously distressing this guy.

[Peter666]

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This is silly. The guy was throwing computer equipment around. What is the translator going to find out? "Hello officers, let me greet you in the traditional Polish manner of smashing appliances."

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He was detained for 10 hours after a 14 hour flight for no reason. None. So after being held in a room for 10 hours for doing nothing, not being able to communicate with anyone, with your elderly mother driving five hours to pick you up and knowing that she's looking for you, you get pissed and throw a monitor.

I would expect him to do MUCH worse.

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And what are the police suppose to do about that? Pat him on the back and have a beer? They were called in because an individual was smashing private property. This is going to result in an arrest no matter what. He had to be cuffed.

The fault lies with the airport administration.

[KotOD]

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He had to be cuffed.

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No, he didn't. The room was already devoid of any more property to break. He was contained in the same room he had been contained in for the last 10 hours. He was not a threat at all, to anyone.

What were they going to do with him after arresting him? Get a translator. Read what the translators that reviewed the tape said that he was saying and calling for.

There is no goddamned reason that police need to forcefully restrain a person that is already contained and is not a harm to anyone else until such a time that they can communicate with the individual. This is basic [censored] police work.