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Old 11-11-2007, 06:24 PM
Barrin6 Barrin6 is offline
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Default Playing against a light 3 bettor

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $98
MP: $199.55
CO: $432.30
Hero (BTN): $219.15
SB: $195
BB: $208

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $25</font>, Hero calls $18

Flop: ($51) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $38</font>, Hero shoves...

Guy is a regular who lovesss to 3bet. this is the first time I called his 3 bet.

Anyone prefer a drawier board to shove on?
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Playing against a light 3 bettor

it had been a couple months since you made one of these

are you just trying to get more action?

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Old 11-11-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Playing against a light 3 bettor

i'd rather have 65s but i don't hate it

especially because without history he'll pbb fold TT-JJ
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Playing against a light 3 bettor

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i'd rather have 65s but i don't hate it

especially because without history he'll pbb fold TT-JJ

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88&gt;65s [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: Playing against a light 3 bettor

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i'd rather have 65s but i don't hate it

especially because without history he'll pbb fold TT-JJ

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88&gt;65s [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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how is having way worse equity when called a good thing? it's not like he's calling our shove with 77 and 76s is not enough combinations to have a significant impact on the math presented above
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: Playing against a light 3 bettor

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i'd rather have 65s but i don't hate it

especially because without history he'll pbb fold TT-JJ

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88&gt;65s [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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Board: 6c 4s Qh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.965% 23.96% 00.00% 10912 1.50 { 6s5s }
Hand 1: 76.035% 76.03% 00.00% 34625 1.50 { QQ+, 66, 44, AQs, KQs, QJs, AQo, KQo }

(range taken from Barrin's post earlier in the thread when he figured out that 88 had 9% equity against this range.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:20 PM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Re: Playing against a light 3 bettor

Who cares about his calling range when he's bluffing so often?
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:48 PM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default Re: Playing against a light 3 bettor

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i'd rather have 65s but i don't hate it

especially because without history he'll pbb fold TT-JJ

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88&gt;65s [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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lol WRONG.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:49 PM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default Re: Playing against a light 3 bettor

Barrin, call flop. IF u call turn or not is entirely 100% read/image/game flow based. Pushing the flop is just bad because there are only 3 better hands that MIGHT fold
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Playing against a light 3 bettor

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it had been a day since you made one of these

are you just trying to get more action?

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fyp (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...age=0&amp;vc=1)

Yeah, if you're calling preflop you gotta make moves like this some of the time to make up for the lack of direct pot/implied odds preflop.
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