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Old 09-22-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

Due to recent history/stats etc. I felt villain might be 4-betting light here. Is it best to push or fold? His flop check is interesting. Worth a bet on turn?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($200)
MP ($71.45)
CO (Villain) ($401.75)
Button ($200)
Hero ($227.10)
BB ($247.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO (Villain) raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $26</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO (Villain) raises to $68</font>, Hero calls $42.

Flop: ($146) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain checks.

Turn: ($146) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ?
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

If you think vilain is 4betting light, call him with your 9s instead of raising him.
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

lol
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

Well since you find this comical perhaps you could comment on the range I put him on after his check: AJ, KK, KQ, JTs, JJ, TT. Or are you villain?
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

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If you think vilain is 4betting light, call him with your 9s instead of raising him.

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Obviously on this occasion I hadn't thought ahead, but if I'm expecting him to 4-bet light isn't it better to be greedy and reraise with the intention of pushing to a 4-bet?
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

In order to 'turn your hand into a bluff' you really need to have your opponent on JJ/TT!
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

Ok, 'value bluff' then. If my range is right then he folds 28 hands, calls/raises 11 and possibly calls 4.
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

Also on second thoughts he doesn't check with KQ often because he hopes I'm slowplaying AK or AA.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

Your preflop play makes me want to vomit, either shove or fold pf, folding like 98% of the time.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: Should I turn my hand into a bluff?

I hate when I ask a question about postflop play and get answers about preflop play. I think you're right that oop it's better to push or fold, and given my read on the situation I actually would have pushed 100% of the time. Nevertheless, sometimes we make questionable plays, get in tricky situations, and then have a decision to make. My question is simple - is the range I'm putting him on correct? If it is, I should bet the turn...
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