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Old 08-17-2007, 09:02 PM
Lewkiz Lewkiz is offline
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Default Should I 2nd barrel this turn (3-6)

The opponent joined the table the last orbit, seems to play a TAG/LAG game. Should I fire a second barrel on this “good” turn card? Or is that just spewing against an unknown that have called you both PF and on the flop?

No IQ poker 3.00/6.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker
saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>
Button brat111 ($621.05)
SB AsSeenOnTv ($770.10)
BB <font color="#C00000">Hero ($685.30)</font>
UTG takis48 ($75.00)
UTG+1 ashur78 ($147.00)
CO <font color="#C00000">Poontang ($962.30)</font>
Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, Poontang raises to 24.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to 72.00, Poontang calls 54.00.
Flop (159.00) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets 122.00, Poontang calls 122.00.
Turn (403.00) K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero?
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:07 PM
Laetus Laetus is offline
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Default Re: Should I 2nd barrel this turn (3-6)

I fire again, for sure. By the way, I like to just call PF. I don't like to build big pots OOP.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:11 PM
jackflashdrive jackflashdrive is offline
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Default Re: Should I 2nd barrel this turn (3-6)

In a 3-bet pot he will fold often enough on this turn for a second barrel to be profitable. "Well sheet, now my 1010 doesn't beat anything"
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:35 AM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: Should I 2nd barrel this turn (3-6)

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In a 3-bet pot he will fold often enough on this turn for a second barrel to be profitable. "Well sheet, now my 1010 doesn't beat anything"

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Given the pot size, that means pushing the turn, right? There is only $480 left and a $400 pot. So, the second barrel is the only barrel left, no?

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Old 08-18-2007, 06:09 AM
Lewkiz Lewkiz is offline
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Default Re: Should I 2nd barrel this turn (3-6)

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In a 3-bet pot he will fold often enough on this turn for a second barrel to be profitable. "Well sheet, now my 1010 doesn't beat anything"

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Given the pot size, that means pushing the turn, right? There is only $480 left and a $400 pot. So, the second barrel is the only barrel left, no?



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That was going to be my other question, should I push AI or is it better to bet low and then fold to a re-raise?
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Old 08-18-2007, 08:29 AM
ipokeder ipokeder is offline
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Default Re: Should I 2nd barrel this turn (3-6)

betting smaller imo is better for your game on the whole in rr'd pots, the smaller the pots are the more room you have to outplay your opponents and exercise a difference in skill

of course if you suck then you should bet big and rr as big as you can so that nobody can do anything except play their hand straight up

that's just my opinion though i'm sure i'm horribly wrong in every way possible
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Should I 2nd barrel this turn (3-6)

Bet like 111 shove the rest on any river.
Do this with your whole betting range.
Fold to a turn shove here obv.
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:57 PM
MATT111 MATT111 is offline
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Default Re: Should I 2nd barrel this turn (3-6)

Problem with the turn shove is he knows we know he can`t call with QQ-99. He also knows we probably aren`t making this play with QQ/JJ. With AA or Kx a lot of people will check behind on this turn as well.
Checking behind the turn and bluffing the river is the more believable line. Problem is he may bluff before we can.
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:52 PM
Erikson Erikson is offline
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Default Re: Should I 2nd barrel this turn (3-6)

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He also knows we probably aren`t making this play with QQ/JJ.


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what are we supposed to do w QQ/JJ then? We're not afraid of the K and we're going to bet AK for value here. I fire.
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Old 08-18-2007, 04:16 PM
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Checking behind the turn and bluffing the river is the more believable line.

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we act first
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