more lines for this fd (bvb)

kura0 · #1 08-19-2007, 05:47 AM

PartyPoker $600 NL Hold'em (5 handed) HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks & Stats
MP ($418.25)
CO ($574.05)
BU ($852.35)
SB ($603) (23/15/3.13/19) (324h)
Hero ($591)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, SB raises to $22, Hero calls $16.

Flop: ($44) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $30, Hero raises to $95, SB raises to $186, Hero calls $91.

Turn: ($416) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $383 (all-in), SB folds.

Final Pot: $799.

my hand is pretty obv i guess, how can i get him to call? cb turn?

uminchu · #2 08-19-2007, 05:55 AM

arrr in on flop, you should fold out top pair hands etc

Caballa · #3 08-19-2007, 05:59 AM

SB played whatever he had quite weirdly. Your line is fine, although a flop all-in is a little more standard.

Lewkiz · #4 08-19-2007, 07:28 AM

I would re-raise him PF from time to time. Usually people open very loose on the SB vs BB and you will have position.

I think it is much better to push AI on this flop because he will be able to push you out on the turn a big amount of the time.
He also has a very wide range which means he will have TPbK a lot of the time which he probably will fold to an AI on the flop.
And if your ace also is good (which it probably is) it is even more important to push the flop due to the extra outs which also probably will scare him if they hit.

mertzo · #5 08-19-2007, 07:44 AM

with about what ratio do you guys float/raise flop here?

kura0 · #6 08-19-2007, 08:32 AM

@mertzo, i dont really get you here, we are not "floating" cause we have the nutflushdraw and one OC.
i also think, please correct me, that i have good FE on this board, so i would pretty much always raise here/instead of calling his cbet

jfish · #7 08-19-2007, 12:49 PM

if you were absolutely sure you had no FE on flop, this is the best line. however, given the size of his 3bet and this being a bvb battle i would shove flop nearly always. esp if i raised flop, its good for meta.

if he felts any turn, its tons more +ev to call and jam heart turns.

willw9 · #8 08-19-2007, 01:04 PM

What are we repping exactly by 4betshoving the flop?

jfish · #9 08-19-2007, 01:16 PM

he can have airrrr.

nextgenneo · #10 08-19-2007, 01:16 PM

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What are we repping exactly by 4betshoving the flop?

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33/77/6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] type hands