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Old 08-14-2007, 04:12 PM
Lewkiz Lewkiz is offline
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Default Badly played KK? (3-6)

The opponent 23/9. Is this a bad fold or should I have folded on the turn?
Thought that his flop minR meant that I was either way ahead or way behind, so probably better to call down. When the ace hit on the turn my hand pretty much became a bluff catcher, the thing is the turn card is a very good card to bluff but thought that he would not fire again on the river if he didn’t have anything.

No IQ poker 3.00/6.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker
saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>
Button Hero ($829.65)
SB chirpybrox ($674.30)
BB x777x ($594.00)
UTG <font color="#C00000">waaaa ($447.85)</font>
UTG+1 council123 ($825.50)
CO xxxkamuishiroxxx ($211.82)
Preflop: Hero is on the Button with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
waaaa calls 6.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to 30.00, 2 folds, waaaa calls 24.00.
Flop (69.00) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
waaaa checks, Hero bets 58.00, waaaa raises to 116.00, Hero calls 58.00.
Turn (301.00) A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
waaaa bets 102.00, Hero calls 102.00.
River (505.00) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
waaaa moves all-in for 199.85, 1 fold
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:16 PM
Caballa Caballa is offline
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Default Re: Badly played KK? (3-6)

Villain has 75BB? Shove flop when he minraises.
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Badly played KK? (3-6)

shove flop, as played fold turn
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:27 PM
mythrilfox mythrilfox is offline
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Default Re: Badly played KK? (3-6)

I think this is really opponent dependent, but I think you could consider folding the flop. Most mid-high pairs like 66-JJ are going to be included in a 9%PFR's raising range, and he could even have AA here. If he's at all shown himself to be donkish, or if you and him have any history of aggression whatsoever, or if your sample size is small and he's largely unknown, then just push the flop.

Basically I'm saying push the flop in a lot of situations, but folding here doesn't seem outrageous in the right circumstances.

Calling doesn't really make much sense to me given you only have 1PSB left.
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:31 PM
runningirl07 runningirl07 is offline
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Default Re: Badly played KK? (3-6)

Put it in on the flop for sure. I see guys like that limping mid-high pairs like 66-JJ all the time. I wouldn't fold the flop versus this guy at all ever.
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Badly played KK? (3-6)

ai flop
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:42 PM
Lewkiz Lewkiz is offline
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Default Re: Badly played KK? (3-6)

I think I overvalue when people min-Chk-Raises me, something I most stop doing, thanks.
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