TPtK in a re-raised pott, bad turn card (2-4)

[Lewkiz]

The opponent is very loose 50/20/1, when I started to compare and test ranges in pokerstove I realized that it were a pretty bad call on the turn if he weren’t able to bluff hands like KK.

No IQ poker 2.00/4.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker
saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>
Button Javeman86 ($771.65)
SB hatchet9 ($397.60)
BB <font color="#C00000">JOHNWANE ($400.00)</font>
UTG <font color="#C00000">Hero ($501.20)</font>
UTG+1 <font color="#C00000">SiSamuari ($160.00)</font>
CO noiq2817533 ($145.00)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero raises to 16.00, 2 folds, hatchet9 calls 14.00, JOHNWANE raises to 48.00, Hero calls 36.00, hatchet9 calls 36.00.
Flop (156.00) J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
hatchet9 checks, JOHNWANE bets 64.00, Hero calls 64.00, 1 fold.
Turn (284.00) Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
JOHNWANE moves all-in for 284.00, Hero calls 284.00.
River (852.00) J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

[Caballa]

Your line is atrocious against a 50/20 player. 4bet pre-flop all-in as you'll potentially be called by worse hands. As played, raise flop all-in (although it'd be better to do so without two other people in the pot, which is why you 4bet pre).

[AAismyfriend]

I 4 bet preflop against this guy 100% here, and I'd shove the flop as played.

[Lewkiz]

I have never tought about it this way. Just thought, he re-raises from the BB against two players one UTG =&gt; He must have some kind of strong hand. Tested it in pokerstove and before AK shows a positive value he need to call with alot of hands, but will add this thought process to my game.

This time it wouldn't work thue, he showed AA and a set of aces.

But always nice when you get something new to think about, thanks!

[jackflashdrive]

you don't always have to felt AK, but you are definitely in a fit-or-fold spot PF. With his stats it would be quite silly to let him see a flop against your A high in position. He had the worst case scenario for your hand, but you'll run into set under set more often than this situation against this guy.